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Funkychateau
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rode a new 2007 Saturday, and liked it fairly well. Price at Dallas HD is discounted to $10,000. They'll also sell me a new 2008, but they'll want me to pay MSRP.

Additionally, I've seen several 2006 models on the used market for $8,000 or less.

So, in choosing between these options, are price and condition all I need to consider? Or, are there changes from year-to-year? If the year models are identical, it seems reasonable to buy lightly used and save money.

Thanks!
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Terp84alum
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm interested in this as well. My dealer has new 06, 07, and 08. I was offered the same $10k deal for an 07 (plus taxes and other stuff). I'm not convinced that's a great deal.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

2006 was the first year

2007 has a lower seat, different inner air box, different front fork springs, different oil pump drive gear, Pirelli Scorpion Sync tires and a few other little things

2008 brings in a new motor, new fuel injection system, bigger oil cooler, different front forks to decrease turning radius, heated grips, heat deflectors under the seat, new accessory system under the flyscreen, new colors, and a few other small changes.
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Terp84alum
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

New motor? Can you give details? Thanks
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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EAST TROY, Wis. (July 8, 2007) – Buell continues to develop its Thunderstorm V-Twin powertrain in 2008, with significant enhancements that boost engine performance and reduce required maintenance.

The Buell Thunderstorm is a modern air/oil/fan-cooled V-Twin powertrain utilized in the Buell XB motorcycle platform that includes the Firebolt, Lightning and Ulysses model families. Two versions of the engine are offered. The Thunderstorm 1203 displaces 1203cc and produces 103 horsepower at 6800 rpm and 84 ft. lbs. of torque at 6000 rpm. The Thunderstorm 984 displaces 984cc and produces 92 horsepower at 7500 rpm and 70 ft. lbs. of torque at 6000 rpm. Both are tuned to deliver a broad, flat torque curve that makes abundant power available to the rider at almost any speed, reducing the need for downshifting and providing strong acceleration in any situation.

Both engines feature electronic fuel injection and dry-sump oiling. The Thunderstorm 1203 is equipped with the Buell InterActive Exhaust system, which utilizes a valve in the dual-chamber muffler that is controlled by the ECM and adjusts exhaust flow according to riding conditions to smooth torque delivery and optimize engine power.

For 2008 the Thunderstorm 1203 redline is increased to 7100 rpm from 6800 rpm, giving this engine an even broader powerband, and riders the ability to accelerate longer and downshift at a higher rpm. The sustained rpm redline of the Thunderstorm 984 remains 7500 rpm.

For 2008, the following changes have been made to both the Thunderstorm 1203 and the Thunderstorm 984:

New Timing System
The timer cover is eliminated, as the engine is now crank timed from a new crank position sensor, which eliminates the need for manual timing, reducing maintenance costs. The ECM actively monitors and adjusts timing based on driving environment. The new sensor makes 30 reads per revolution, compared to the previous two reads per revolution, for more precise control of fuel mapping and timing to conditions.

More Robust Crankpins
The size of the crankpins is increased to 1.50 inches from 1.25 inches.

Oiling System Upgraded
A higher-output oil pump supports oiling to the new crankpin area. The new pump is driven off of the crank, a design based on the Buell XBRR production racing motorcycle. A new eight-row oil cooler offers enhanced cooling performance. All oil line ends are now equipped with Jiffy-tite fittings.

New DDFI 3 ECM (Engine Control Module)
A new ECM with increased computing capacity. DDFI 3 actively controls and monitors the TPS (throttle position sensor), IAC (idle air control), and timing. DDFI 3 automatically zeros the TPS and adjusts fuel metering for smoother idle, eliminating service intervals and reducing the cost of ownership. A new progressive throttle cam and new throttle cables provide smoother throttle input from stops, and less rotation to full throttle.
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Funkychateau
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Terp84alum,

How much were they asking for the new 2006?
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Terp84alum
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can find out or one of the members here is my sales rep. Maybe he'll chime in.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PM me...my GM still has our sponsorship contract hostage...
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Funkychateau
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PM sent.
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Terp84alum
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I highly recommend Ratbuell and his dealership.
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Funkychateau
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No response to PM. Ratbuell, please email me at the address on my profile, regarding the new 2006 Ulysses.

thanks,

Marty
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Terp84alum
Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He's off today. I was down there this afternoon. He'll get back to you, I'm sure.
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