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Ridrnkink18
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so i have been riding the last couple days and everything has been perfectly fine. no problems starting up, riding, or anything. last night i rode to class got off the bike came back out to the bike went to start it and it would not start. the needles would jump, the needle board lights would come on, the brake lights worked, the blinkers worked...but my headlights would not come on, the fuel pump would not kick on, and the bike would not even try to turn over. i tried dumping it, that did not work. i checked my fuses they all seemed ok. i dont get why the headlights and fuel pump would not turn on, along with the bike wouldnt turn over, but everything else would come on at the turn of the key. i found a wire down on the right side of bike that led into a plug..its a pretty decent sized square shaped plug with three wires running into it. it had a little bit of tape over it so i unpealed it and u could see the wire inside and it was frayed a little bit. i guess the guy before me did not take care of it like he should have. but i need to know if anyone can give me an idea of why my lights arent working and the bike wont prep itself and than start. thanksss
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What if you're in neutral with the side stand up?
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Ridrnkink18
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

? would that make a difference? i had the kickstand down in neutral and all the acc. would work, but the lights would not come, the fuel pump would not go on when i flipped the run switch...and the red engine light would not kick on, and the starter button did nothing.
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Ridrnkink18
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 08:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and i did try to start it after putting the kickstand up it still made no difference...i was reaing some on this site it could be relay and diodes but idk i want someone to read my problem and mayb give me an answer if possible
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Jos51700
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 08:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like maybe an in ignition switch issue hitting accessory but not run.

Weird.
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Ridrnkink18
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if it was ignition switch how come my lights do not come on? thats on the others set of switches
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Newbolt
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check the starter relay. It is on the left side of the instrument cluster. I had a similar issue and that was the cause. The relay is around six bucks at the dealer.
Hope that helps. Good luck
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was thinking it might have been the clutch switch, or the kick stand switch, is why I asked.
I hate electrical gremlins.
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Jos51700
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What other set of switches?

Can you post a pic of the connector you mentioned?
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New12r
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check the three relays next to the fuses, they should all click when the ignition is switched on.

I bet it is the key switch relay.
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Ridrnkink18
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i would put a picture on but i cannot till later im at work right this minute....and can someone throw a picture of these relays spoken about im getting kind of confused by which relays they are...the little fuse box panel that holds the small fuses...the relays are incorporated into that panel?
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, they're plastic squares that plug into the fuse box, beside the fuses.
They're all the same so you can swap them around, if the bike starts after swapping them around, you've found your problem. new ones are about a buck apiece.
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Damnut
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is the relay that they are talking about. I had the same exact thing happen to me last summer. The ones you have on the bike are no longer used. Get the updated ones from a newer Buell and replace all three. There is a space for a spare as well. I bought 4 and gave my old ones that were still good to friends for spares. I have the part numbers at home if needed.

I switched the relay so my bike started but I had no instrument panel.
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Ridrnkink18
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

do you think you could get me part number i am going to stop by dealership anyway to get...i stop at harley dealership right? i dont have to go searching for a buell shop because they are the same thing.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

make sure your battery cables are TIGHT.
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Barker
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

can you bump start it?
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Kaveman
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Damnut,
If you get a chance, I'd like to get the part# for those relays(what year are they from? Direct swap?). I've got an '03 XB and I'd like to update...
TIA
Kaveman
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Brad_buell
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes....Please post those part numbers. I would like to replace them as well on my '03 XBS.
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Glitch
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2008 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you don't get the pat # in this thread, try asking in the sponsor section.
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Kaveman
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Relay Numbers:
Old P/N is 31522-00B new P/N is 31522-00C.
Picked up a few at the local dealer. $5 or so each.
Kaveman
Sorry to hijack the thread...
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