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Teddagreek
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 01:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've had my bike in storage for last six month up on a stand...

Two weeks ago I tore down for my new crossroads bars.. Tonight I get the bars on fine..

I have no front brake... Tried bleeding it, even tried to bleed the banjo's then back to the caliper..

No matter what I do I can't build pressure... The MC is New changed 9 months ago...

The wheel also is really dragging its up on my stand and the front wheel is a bear to turn..

Can someone help me out..I'm baffled at the moment though its 1:30 and I'm beat..

Any help would be Really appreciated...

Thanks......
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Strmvt
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 01:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

far as wheel hard to turn maybe the wheel bearings are binding up they been sitting for 6 months they "might" need replaced. and far as that goes check the seal(s) around the piston(s) on the caliper maybe a small leak preventing pressure build up. also check the master cylinder cap the gasket might not be seated fully and be leaking. might also try to manually compress the pistons like you changed the pads that might help as well. Just a few of the things I'd try/check out
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Teddagreek
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

New Bearings 9 months ago too..

I'll try taking off the caliper see if the issue could be there..

This bike was perfect when I put it away.. i just don't get it... Time for sleep..
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Henry_the_8th
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 02:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Try pulling the caliper (edit: I see you beat me to posting). If the wheel still drags it's the bearings. Are there any brake fluid leaks? Double check your brake hose routing, make sure it isn't kinked. I just did the Crossroad install and it is quite a challenge getting everything to line up just right. Did you drop the fork tube per the instructions or just loosen the instrument panel bracket?
Best of luck!

(Message edited by henry_the_8th on March 07, 2008)
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Punkid8888
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 07:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When you bleed the brakes, does fluid at least push out of the bleeder? or is it like bone dry?

Since you recently changed the bar configuration I am wondering if you pinch a flex line either during the removal and or install process and not even noticed. I am pretty sure the steel braided lines still have a plastic inner sleeve that if bent to far will kink and restrict flow both to the caliper and returning from the caliper this might explain why you cannot bleed it the brakes and at the same time its dragging.

First make sure nothing is obviously pinched and then follow the lines and look for any signs of distortion that show if it might have been kinked.

Hopefully you will find the problem
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Teddagreek
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I tried messing with it this morning..

I took the line off the MC and put my thumb over the hole to see if it was putting pressure and and sucking back..

Sorta of week... even from the MC with no line on you think it would just squirt like crazy but it didn't every time..



I'll Do the caliper when I get home... Honestly brake hung by the line for last two weeks... Nothing looks pinch good routes could it be internally pinched with out showing on the outside...

Going check the Caliper when I get home today.. I'm think of buying a brake line just in case..
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It can be a bear to get all the right bubbles out of all the right places, and until you do you can end up just wiggling a bubble when you are trying to bleed.

Use Henriks approach of using a synringe or a brake bleeder tool to "suck" the fluid out, or even (if clean) force it in up from the caliper. You are then not dependent on the little piston in the master cylinder (that probably has a big fat air bubble in it). Or rap the master cylinder while pumping it up, and make sure you can release the hand lever all the way (which seems to open a small hole to "suck in new fluid"... Trying to pump it up with short strokes doesn't work well, you have to completely release the lever (if that makes any sense).

(Message edited by reepicheep on March 07, 2008)
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Clutchless
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if the master cyl ever hung down low enough that any part of the line was higher than the fluid level then there are air bubbles hiding from you, dont need to worry, just flick or wiggle all your brake lines. This will be a good time to check for kinks or leaks. I have gone as far to take the caliper off and rotate it to let all the bubbles raise out of the unit.

pump the brakes slowly, fast motions cause bubbles.
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Teddagreek
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WENT AND BOUGHT A MITY VAC...

Took a while but it is back...


Another Late Night got to roll in the morning...


Thanks Every One...
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Strmvt
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you figure out the bearings Tedd?
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