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Jramsey
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BaggerMike
"I am new to this,"
If you mean PC's, hell I can barely typpe.
I don't even know how to quote on this forum and have been in front of a key board about a year now.(flunked typing in H.S.) That is why I seldom reply.
Don't take everything on the net to heart, most people/posters are good natured,help full and do mean well.
I visit about 9 different forums daily(only 3 are bike related) and sometimes I get flamed for lack of punctuation let alone content or spelling.
Having only been computer literate for about one year which equates to "owning one and being able to get on line with dial up"(city living does sometimes have it's perks.)
Communication is what its all about in my opinion.
I see in your profile your a welder,so am I just a year older. For the last 30 years I've been self employed running a job/fab/machine shop and now semi retired.
So hopefully you can see how threads drift away from the original posters question. Sorry if I ruffled your feathers.
Best Regards
J.Ramsey

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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 02:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am bike only here. But I am a Flexcar member (car share program).

I live downtown so having a car is not necessary. Frankly I do not need the bike either.

But...

If my financial situation was different, I would have a supercharged Range Rover ( or maybe a G55) in a private garage.
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Molly_hatchet
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 03:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

dont own a car..i hear those are for wussies...if i have to have 4 wheels i need ta beg the wife for her car...most of the time im ridin..snow kinda slows me down a little though...now if i lived in florida or cali then i dont think id ever need car.
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aerostich Roadcrafter Suit (best thing an all-year round/all weather rider can own), Aerostich Kanetsu AirVantage electric vest, Combat Lite boots. The only thing I WON'T do is ride on snow or ice. That's just plain NUTS. Even if I can handle snow (I've done it in the past) there's no guarantee the other road users around here (who can barely drive in NICE weather) won't do something stupid to mow me down.

In REALLY cold weather I'll wear my DuoFold PolyPro thermals under my regular work clothes. Coldest I've ridden was the Crotona Midnight Run a few years ago. The thermometer on my K1200LT was showing +9 degrees.

Rode 900 miles in the rain from Atlanta, GA back home one year and the Aerostich kept me completely dry. At least, it did till I hit the Staten Island Expressway. There, traffic came to nearly a complete standstill and when we did move it was barely above a crawl. Under those conditions the water started running down the back of my neck and under my collar. By the time I got home, I was COMPLETELY soaked. I really HATE NYC/Long Island traffic. It is especially loathsome when the weather gets bad.
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Treadmarks
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Two Wheels Only here. Everyday, rain or shine. Even rode in a few hurricanes, through deep water before and after landfall. 60 mile round trip commute. Groceries, booze, crablegs...The uly does it all. Every now and then I need to make a dump run or hit home depot and my F150 is good for that. It is also the wifes daily driver. If I can't get the truck and need a cage, I have to fall back on my 96 SVT Cobra. Fun as hell to drive, but really sucks the gas. The Uly and the Cobra are the only two vehicles I have had in the last 10 years that make my heart pound while driving them. I hope thats a good thing.
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only cars I like are kit cars or classic roadsters. I hate normal everyday cars.

BUT I need one to haul around my hockey gear and use to get back and forth on snowy/icy days.

I however DO NOT OWN A CAR : ) I leave it in my mom's name so I can get CHEAP insurance.

I am looking to get a 2WD Ural or Dneper for those icy/snowy days and I can haul my hockey gear : )
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Baggermike
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Spiderman I to was thinking of a ural with the 2 wheel drive to, I rode one in florida in 1999 and did not like it because it had very bad brakes and no power, but did like it off road, now I see they have made lots of changes and would make an excellant second bike, I like the old cars to but I just do not feel comfortable driving, my son does not like cars either but I want him to learn to drive and get his licence, I told him if he wants to take a girl out he could rent a car, every couple of month I will rent one to buy things that is really to big to put on a bike, and that reminds me why I do not like cars. Mike
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Ceejay
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spidy-I've played in tourneys with a guy who would ride his bike with his gear strapped to the back of his roadstar-of course he wasn't the goalie. They make a few hockey bags that have straps like backpacks but you'd still have to find a place for your legs. I've done it a few times with my XB and it wasn't fun, but the looks are priceless: ) Plus ice and snow I'd have to pass.
I have a truck and a car, but my wife works and I have 3 kids under 7, I wish I could ride yr round, and wish more people did it, as I'm hoping to when all the kids get into school.
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Baggermike
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi to all you guys, I did not expect to get so many posts, but I am glad I am getting a good responses. I know it is hard to get by with a motorcycle only and is why I started this tread to see how many of use are out there and the different ways we get by with mainly a bike. I am looking for advise to peoples choice of riding gear and I need to get full leathers to do track days and year round riding, I think a perforated full leather suite whith under suites either for winter or summer and I am thinking of an aerostich suit to go over the leather suite, I have electric gear and I have a two piece teknic gortex monsoon suite, but I burnt holes in the legs, can anyone tell me if the aerostich suite melts when hitting the exhaust, I will wrap the pipes soon so that will elimanate that problem but now I need pants, aerostich has so many good things, and I need to get a full suite to go over the leather suite so ventalation and water proofing is a must, I can use a wind proof undersuit and trying to figure out a riding suite system that will pack light, I have full heated gear so I do not have to dress in layers, but I bought a sport bike, the buell 1125R, and looking for luggage to look good on it and that means small, I will use the leather suite for all my riding and having two types of undersuites whith heated gear, all I need now is to figure out the over suite that will be right for me, I will not need the protection pads because the leather suite would have them, I will probly end up with an aerostich suit. Mike
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike,

You do NOT want a leather suit for the track that has room beneath it for heavy warm layers - like a sweatshirt. The racing/track leathers MUST fit tightly. You WILL fall on the race/track bike - actually if you are an active racer, you WILL fall a few times a year. You do NOT want the leathers to move on your body as you're sliding or tumbling. I use perforated leathers and racing in the winter, just put a heavy windbreaker over the outside. Use good/thin long undergarments.

You really do have it right in having an Aerostitch (or similar) for around-town. Get armor if it doesn't have it already.

2 sets of gear: Track and Street. Get a rain suit for either.

Electric underwear - OR get the Gerbings full heated riding wear (liner AND outers)... not bad.

Regardless of what the manufacturers say, NONE of their gear is rain proof. Get a cheap rain suit.
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Baggermike
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi Slaughter I know that the leather suite needs to fit tight, they have undersuites made for them like a thin second skin and you can get one that is a wind blocker or one that wicks moister away depending on the season, but I apreciate the advise anyway, I have first gear 90 watt heated jacket liner, fist gear heated gloves and gerbings pant liners and socks, I am thinking about testing my teknic monsoon gortex 2 piece suite today, my voltage regulator is in so I am thinking of making the trip and see if I stay dry on the 1125R I heard you can, so I think I might go for it, it is two hundred mile trip so I will post when I get back the details. Mike
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Baggermike
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just got home a leaky water proof glove and a couple of bolts of Lightning (( not the one you can ride )) changed my mind. Mike
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and I am thinking of an aerostich suit to go over the leather suit

Can I ask why??? The whole point of an aerostich is for ease of use. If you put leathers underneath it, you will certainly look like the Michelin Man, and you could impede your ability to ride.


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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aerostich suits are designed to go over your everyday clothing, not leathers. That is taking ATGATT to a bit of an extreme!

The Roadcrafter suit was specifically designed to be ONE suit that served the same purpose as a set of leathers and a rain suit for most ROAD riders. They're also allowed lately for track schools, but they are NOT sufficient for competitive road racing.

I save a TON of packing space by packing and wearing lightweight clothing and wearing my Roadcrafter suit when I take multi-day rides in uncertain weather. There are enough pockets in the suit so that it actually gives me additional packing space in itself to boot.

If you are really concerned about water proofness, then go for the Darien Suit. You sacrifice some of the Roadcrafter's convenience but you have a suit that is designed to be completely waterproof. The zippers that make the Roadcrafter so convenient to get in and out of also provides an entry point for rain. Not a problem in a light rain, or even a heavy rain if you don't stay out in it too long but definitely an issue on an unfaired bike on an all day ride in the pouring rain.
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Baggermike
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks I am thinking of the darien suite and I thought I heard that you can use them on some tracks but not sure, I have New England drag strip and louden race way for road racing and I just want to do track days and not compete but do think I will need the leathers for both tracks, been having trouble with my bike running all my heated gear so I got to rethink everything, so any sugestion will help and want to thank you guys for that. Mike
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Court
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 06:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Aerostich, either the Roadcrafter or the Darien, is amazing.

There is no need to wear leather under it.

If your Aerostich is properly fitted and used it'll do better than leather in terms of protection.

The Roadcrafter is "fairly" waterproof.

Whatever you wear, take care of it, and know how to use ti properly.
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