| Author | Message | ||
     Knotrider |
Yeah Yeah Yeah, Mr.Buell also said (not word for word) that there is nor will there ever be a need for a water cooled bike. My point is this...if you are going to embrace all of the technology available today, you could do better than the 1125. I'm not slamming the bike or the man behind it. What I should have said was..."to me the 1125 is not a Buell" Am I stuck in the past with those air-cooled, pushrod, dino-bikes ? Yes I am, I'm still trying to find the time and energy to put a kickstarter on my XBR's. It's bad enough they come with a rubberband drive. | ||
| Mikef5000 |
Why can't their be two types of Buells? | ||
| Bads1 |
Another one Court that thinks he know to much.Merry Xmas Knotrider. Loosen up and untie the knot......I think its tied to tight. (Message edited by bads1 on December 24, 2007) (Message edited by bads1 on December 24, 2007) | ||
| Bads1 |
Yeah Yeah Yeah, Mr.Buell also said (not word for word) that there is nor will there ever be a need for a water cooled bike. BTW He never said that. | ||
| Knotrider |
I really really thought I was playin' nice. Perhaps all those people I bit on the face were right...maybe I am an a-hole. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
...maybe I am an a-hole True dat. | ||
| Djkaplan |
The 1125 is not a Buell! It is a Rotax in Buells clothing. I just can't believe how uninformed you are. Not one Buell motorcycle ever produced had a proprietary engine. Did you even have a clue that the first Buell ever produced used an engine sourced from the UK? So... are you saying no Buells are really Buells? | ||
| Knotrider |
Hey court, he said that, and he said this. Reminds me of Spyke and Tyke. Guess who's the tyke mr. bads1 ? As for you Fresnofool, Dummy-up stupid you're only removing all doubt. Djkaplan...really, I thought EB made the motors in his basement out of pixie dust and plumbing fittings and hoseclamped them to Harley frames. Thanks for fillin' me in, tool. Mikef5000, of course there can be more than one type of Buell. That is why I ammended my first post to read "What I should have said was...(to me the 1125 is not a Buell)". Now can we let this filthy dirty water make it's way under the dog gone bridge already ? For cryin' out loud it's Christmas. | ||
| Henry_the_8th |
Wow Knothead, me thinks you didn't get the Easy Bake oven you were hoping for. Why else would you be so pissy after all it's Christmas for crying out loud? | ||
| Bads1 |
Ooooh Knot I must of hit a tender spot. Merry X-Mas. In the New Year buy Courts book that will be on shelves soon and you can brush up on your knowledge of Buell. Sorry about the Easy Bake Oven... maybe next year Hey??? | ||
| Rocketsprink |
Last time I checked, the 1125 was built at the East Troy, WI Buell factory. Can't get much more Buell than that, can it? So because YOU don't like the liquid cooled engine, it's not a Buell? I suppose you're one of the hard ass knobs that thinks a V-Rod isn't a Harley. What happens when the day comes that air cooled engines are replaced by Liquid cooled in ALL Buells and H-D?(the day WILL come sooner or later) To quote a famous Bud commercial. "everyone is entitled to an opinion. The problem comes when you start sharing it." Not a Buell to you? Fine. But I don't think that what this post was about. | ||
| Paint_shaker |
Knot, By reading your posts I gather you are a die-hard Air Head, such as myself. Nothing wrong with expressing your opinion. However, the manner in which you have stated it was rather antagonistic. The Buell 1125r is a Buell just the same as an XB, a Tuber or a blast. It's just different (in every sense). Come down to MBV and I'll buy you a beer! | ||
| Metalstorm |
If it's not a Buell, what the hell is Erik's name doing on it? Have the elves in East Troy been building some one else's bike all this time?? Now I'm confused  | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Hey Knot, I was only agreeing with you, bud. Do you own a Buell? If not, what's the point of posting here. | ||
| Knotrider |
I really don't know how this shit got so out of hand. All I was trying to say was " I personally don't like the new 1125, and it does not represent what a Buell is to me" Next thing I knew I was taking on the whole board (wich I can continue to do if you guys don't wanna be friends). As for the easy bake...you should know by now that I don't really like change so I still prefer to cook over an open flame, thank you very much. All things to be water cooled in the future. So what, just because it may be all that is available doesn't mean I must partake! My car still has points and a condensor even though they are not available at any dealer. As for me owning a Buell...I have 3 1/2 Buells, all air cooled with pushrods...The way "I" like them. As far as knowing all things Buell...I just don't have time or desire for that. I might as well learn all the stats for the Yankee starting line-up, I'll spend my time riding and building instead of collecting knowledge I really don't need. So can we be friends ? Even if I don't like that new 1125 ? I promise I will try my best to play nice and not call anyone names... | ||
| Buelleyeddevil |
Hey Knot,I own an xb12s and I think aircooled is the way to go too.But you gotta admit the 1125r looks rowdy as hell. | ||
| 65460 |
Remind me not to piss you guys off  Merry Christmas everyone | ||
| Prof_stack |
Knot, everything changes and nothing stays the same. In 1986 the Harley faithful were really upset that the WideGlide would be the last Harley to sport a kickstarter. Some still lament no carbs on the '07 and newer hogs. Hey, I love my '03 XB9S (rubberband and all) but choose to not put myself in a time warp and not embrace improvements as they come. And some of those improvements are not necessarily Erik's choice. Oh yeah, Merry Christmas. Actually got some snow today in Seattle. | ||
| Beachbuell |
Lets just say that there are quite a few "imports" being passed by a black Helicon blur in South Florida! | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"The Buell 1125r is a Buell just the same as an XB" Sorry, it's not. The XB motors are made here in Milwaukee by Harley, The 1125r is made and tested in Austria by Rotax. Far from being the same, but I know you understand this already. People here are entitled to an opinion without being assreemed. Sorry that some of you would eat the nuts out of EB's poo, but some won't. Not everybody looks at the 1125r as something positive for Buell, they like an American made motor. Right or wrong, its an opinion. Respect that. On the flip side, being a douche about your opinion isn't going to win fans either. I've been on both sides and have learned that no matter what's said, odds are you won't change people's opinion. (Message edited by Buellinachinashop on December 25, 2007) | ||
| Blake |
Erik Buell cannot digest nuts? | ||
| Lions |
Ricers are starting to recognize??? Bwaaaahahahaa... Ooooohh...scary!  | ||
| Court |
>>>>>" I personally don't like the new 1125, and it does not represent what a Buell is to me" Good for you. Here's the way you SHOULD have said it. . .
From what you did write it appears you know very little about Buells, their history or the history of their various powerplants. Badweb is a good place for you to learn this. (Message edited by court on December 26, 2007) (Message edited by court on December 26, 2007) | ||
| Paint_shaker |
Now that we have it straight that it is YOUR opinion the 1125r is NOT a Buell, can we move on?? (Message edited by Paint shaker on December 26, 2007) | ||
| Djkaplan |
Knotrider isn't here to learn anything; he's here to teach us stuff. And it was a good lesson, too. Now we know. | ||
| Djkaplan |
You win a roll of complimentary teflon tape, Knotrider!  | ||
| Lost_in_ohio |
Knot too much anger. Everyone here is a friend and you are welcome to your opinion. I hear and understand your opinion. You certainly have something in a knot........ | ||
| Snakedriver |
After reading this thread it reminds me of the whole British car thing. They never changed or evolved until it was too late. By then along came the 240Z...And the rest is history. Cheers to Erik for letting the XBs evolve. There are plenty of motor sport MFGs that don’t build their own engines...Lotus, Morgan, and TVR. Those are just 3 that come to mind. The new lotus has a Toyota engine!!! It’s still a Lotus, and I’m sure Collin Chapman would be proud of that car. My point is the engine is just an engine. For what its worth I believe the Rotax is more Buell than the XB plant. After all, wasn’t the Helicon a co-development between Buell and Rotax? Maybe the real question is "Does the Rotax engine help make the 1125 a better bike?". A lesser question may be "Is there an American engine that can deliver the same performance?". I can’t answer the last question because I simply don’t know. So how do I see all this? Ride what you want. Its Erik Buells name on the bike, not ours. If you dont like Buells you can always do what Erik did: Build your own damn bike! LOL. Leo | ||
| Luxor |
After reading this I see that the Internet is NOT a good place to voice an opinion!!! Without the subtle body language and facial cues that is!! I fully understand and appreciate Knots comments.... Simply because if we were in a bar with ice cold beers in our hand, his comments would have been acknowledged for what they truly are, HIS OPINION. We, as the Buell lovers that we are, would have teased him a little, realized he does have a valid point, put it in our collective "GOOD VS BAD" and givin him his point. So, come on guys, read between the lines, the guy loves Buell and is upset at the seemingly main-stream change in HIS company of choice. I can fully understand his apprehension and feel the same way a little bit. I LOVE MY AIR COOLED BUELLS, and honestly, I am a afraid to think that Buell will dump the lump, because I bought my Buell BECAUSE of the LUMP. Anyhoo, get my point!! | ||
| Stretchman |
Air cooled engines have a personality all their own. Harley/Buell has been making that the same way for many years. The truth of the matter is, you can buy what you like. The Buells still pass emissions. And if they ever do change, rest assured that you should still be able to buy what you need for them for many years to come. That being said, I still haven't seen the 1125R. But since the frame is generally there, and is about the size of the Ss frame ( I am a rather large dude ) then I am pretty certain it will be a success. I would love to have one in the stable. But nothing has ever felt right to me like the Ss does. Not even the Uly, although I was tempted. I have done 300 mile days on the Ss without any issues, and I imagine to 1125r is going to change the way people look at Buell from here on in. The best part about this is that change is good. But the trilogy of tech is still readily apparent in the both the XB and the 1125 line. Overall, I think it will be Buells million seller. BTW, if I am correct, I think there are other bikes out there using the rotax powerplant. And from what I understand, it is a giant leap forward in Tech. I don't know about the very bottom end, and slow cruising speeds, but people who ride other marques ( Italian comes to mind ) seem to like the type of engine, and the bike is generally coveted. Look for sales to really take off in Europe. Those roads are where the TOT really shines. |
