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Harryd
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 08:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In light of the new engine electronics, I am curious as to whether or not those of you who have the new 2008 XB models have been experiencing any of the previous model year's drivability problems (hesitations and stumbling issues). I realize that ECU programing will be developed for this system to optimize it, but I am wondering as to how urgent this need will be.
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Snakedriver
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My bike over all runs much better than my 04, it never hick-ups. However it seems like it needs to be spurred a little bit to get it off idle.

Other than that its an over all better machine across the board. Im glad I got the new bike.

Leo
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Harryd
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks, Leo

That is what I was hoping to hear, as I am contemplating purchasing an '08 XB12Ss.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A 45 degree v-twin will never rev like an inline-4.
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Eicas
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an '08 XB12SS with 200 miles on it.

I am keeping to the break in schedule, but during the first day it coughed a couple of times at low RPM and seemed sluggish, during the last 100 miles it has coughed one time and is not nearly as sluggish and seems to really want to wind up, - I have to watch it carefully.

I get a little bit of "popping" every once in a while too while decelerating.

Because of break-in procedures and rain every day I ride it I have not gotten on it too hard, but the bike's powerband has a nice feel to it. At 70 to 80 mph it feels very strong.

I do not consider any of this to be a ridability problem at this time. My '02 XL1200s stage one Sportster took a long time to break in and start running right, about 5K miles, so this does not really surprise me, even though it should be better with the fuel injection.

Bottom line, so far very happy, and expect to be happier.

My other bike is a fuel injected V-4 Honda VFR800A, and I may now decide to sell it because of the Buell.
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Sparrowman
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 07:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My 08,XB12Scg sometimes stumbles off of idle, and takes a while to warm up but only has 375 miles on it
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe things have changed since the '04 model year, but I had to keep mine under 55 for the first 500 miles.

It was not easy, but I did it.

The 1203 Thunderstorm motor is basically the 984 with a longer stroke, and as such it will be slower to rev.

How much you want for the VFR? What year is it? What color is it? I've got my eye peeled for a VFR...
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe things have changed since the '04 model year

They have; Buell raised the RPM limits for break-in considerably starting with the 07 bikes.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool! I remember those first three days of just riding up and down PCH and sticking to surface streets, working up and down through the gears, religiously keeping it under 55 and under 3000 rpm (okay, maybe I went 60 a few times)

It paid off, I think... no leaking or weeping anywhere and reliable operation.
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Snakedriver
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My 08 is trying to take the bit it its mouth. The motor is seems so much stronger. It may be a better fuel control and lower end. WOW. I cant wait to get 'er past 500 miles so I can let 'er go to the redline.

Leo
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Hdbobwithabuell
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I believe the '08 manual states not to exceed 5k RPM for the first 500 miles.
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Hdbobwithabuell
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From the manual (Thanks BMC for making these available online!):

The sound design, quality materials, and workmanship that are built into your new Buell motorcycle will give you optimum performance right from the start.

To allow your engine to wear in its critical parts, we recommend that you observe the riding rules provided below for the first 500 miles 800 kilometers . Adhering to these suggestions will help to assure good future durability and performance.

During the first 50 miles 80 kilometers of riding, keep the engine speed below 4000 RPM in any gear. Do not lug the engine by running or accelerating at very low RPM, or by running at high RPM longer than needed for shifting or passing.

Up to 500 miles 800 kilometers , vary the engine speed and avoid operating at any steady engine speed for long periods. Engine speed up to 5000 RPM in any gear is permissible.

Drive slowly and avoid fast starts at wide open throttle until the engine has warmed up.

Avoid lugging the engine by not running the engine at very low speeds in higher gears.

Avoid hard braking. New brakes need to be broken-in by moderate use for the first 200 miles 300 kilometers .
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an 03 and besides having a battery problem, my bike runs great in cool to moderately warm weather, when its assburning hot, she bogs a bit. If the 08's run better than this, then buying one is a no brainer in my opinion.
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Keep in mind that, just because the battery had enough juice to crank the engine over, doesn't mean that it's not a bit low for the ecm. The bike may run rough until you gone on for a few miles and recharged the battery.

I used to get a hiccup now and then. Not often, but when it happens in a turn it gets your attention!

I don't believe I've had it happen since I got a battery tender to keep it topped off.
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Old_man
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you still have the original battery in your 03, it's probably time to replace it.
I just replaced mine, even though it still worked.
The bike runs better now.
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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an 06 I had the hicups and surges after a tps reset and a few thousand miles it runs like a champ I mean that sincerley the more I use it the better it gets
Good luck with the 08's I envy no tps resets
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Robull
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have 08 12r listen start it up do not give it gas let it idle for at least 3-4 min thats on 90deg. day 35deg 5min you will be ok let it warm up ...normal operating temp is about 300deg let it warm up
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