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Deadduck
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok, I'll admit, I am mistaken, but the point is is that both lights produce the same amount of light and nearly the same pattern, if the reflectors weren't so badly deteriorated I might be able to tell a difference.

on a different note, can anybody get me the inside diameter of the reflectors. I'm kinda thinking that Optilux 1500 lights will just slide right in.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's what I saw when I compared them too Fritz.

Superficially they look similar enough, but the reflectors are differently shaped.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can get the inside diameter a little later today.
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Silly thought, but... could you just cut some aluminum foil and fit it inside the housing following the contours of the reflector housing?

Just asking... apparently the "S" models don't have this problem. My problem was that the lights were pointed down too low when I got the bike from the dealer. Now that I've adjusted them a bit I get plenty of light.
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Deadduck
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Brian
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brian, if you do have that bracket that bolts to the magnesium fairing stay, I'd like to borrow it. That way I don't have to disassemble my bike immediately to start modeling up the new bracket.

Thanks.
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Ccryder
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Steve:
I have the one the headlights attach too if that would be helpful.

Neil S.
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Cereal
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anyone tried the Hella 50mm?

http://www.hella.com/produktion/HellaUSA/WebSite/C hannels/Consumers/Products/Performance_Lighting/Mo dular_Headlamps/Modular_Headlamps.jsp
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Midknyte
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They've been brought up several times, but I don't recall anyone trying them or posting pics of how it turned out...
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Ccryder
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FWIW, these guys have more info on Hellas than the Hella site: Rally Lights

The 50mm and 90mm are made of magnesium. Just to get another discussion started ;+}

Neil S.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll get the bracket in the mail to you in the next few days Steve. I figured you'd rather not
have to disassemble your bike, and since I happened to have the part....No brainer!


I forgot to grab the headlight housing yesterday, It is an oval measuring 3.020in x 3.310in
with a depth of approx 2.75in.
The mounting plate for the light has a hole 3.25x3.5in in it.

(Message edited by diablobrian on November 02, 2007)
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Deadduck
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks Brian, saved me from taking mine apart again this week.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

btw that was Inside diameter of the low beam headlight housing.

(Message edited by diablobrian on November 02, 2007)
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Nautique4life
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Both my headlights are dingy yellow. I bought bulbs from a local autoparts store. I barely noticed a difference. My buddy, also with a R, had the unfortunate experience of watching a friend of his wreck his bike in a parking lot. The outcome of that was him getting a new front end, sans forks. I can not tell you how amazed I was at his super clear lights. They were so new and clear and....new. I told him it was only a matter of time before he was back in my club.
The bulbs were a temporary fix. I want redesigned headlamps. Back to the drawing board Buell. I am not gonna beat a dead horse, I don't want my new headlamps in 5 years. I wanted them yesterday. I agree with owners that think Buell knows AND HAS KNOWN for years about this issue and chose to sneak out the back door while we are still complaining about our vaginas bleeding. If Buell wont help me, then I can only help myself. Hellas..here I come.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Be patient... An aftermarket fix will rear it's ugly head.
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Bertman
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 01:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I talked to a Hella rep at the SEMA show in Vegas on Thursday, and casually mentioned if they made about a 75mm replacement assembly for a Buell Firebolt they could get quite a few sales. He gave me a ( I'm not really interested ) "Yeah, I have heard that." answer.
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Tailspining
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just had the headlights out on my Firebolt, so I could apply another coat of chrome paint, due to flaking. While I was waiting for the paint to dry I spotted a recently deceased leaf. The child in me could not resist. With the sun at noon, I aimed the lens at the leaf and POOF! The leaf almost instantaneously burnt. Hmmm, maybe it’s the sun that’s baking the reflective material and not the bulb? I was holding the lens at about the same distance as the back of the housing is to lens.
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Doerman
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So much for "Ridin' into the sunset!"
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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know I was told that the reason for the black piece around the headlights was to prevent
the melting of the fairing, and I saw some burned paint around the headlight of at least one
firebolt at homecoming.....

However, the sun would have to be very low on the horizon to cause the damage at the back of
the reflector where it usually happens, so I doubt that the sun is causing our woes.


What kind of paint are you using, how often to you re-apply, and how good are the results?
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Tailspining
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been using Dupli-Color Chrome Enamel. Appling about every year and a half. The lens was not directly straight from sun-to-leaf. There was about a 50 to 60 degree refraction so yes, it could be burning the back of the assembly. Try it, you'll see. Maybe that's why the responce is so slow. The fix would require a major re-design.

(Message edited by Tailspining on November 04, 2007)
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Damnut
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Up to the top you go!!!!!
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BTW I mailed the bracket to you yesterday Steve. It should be there before friday.
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Midknyte
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did the bracket arrive yet Steve? I mailed it priority on Tuesday.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brian, yes it came yesterday. *THANK YOU* That will help!!!

Just to keep everyone else up to date...

I have a meeting this week with the owners of my company. The one that makes the final decisions is all for us becoming a badweb sponsor, and offering the headlight brackets and other billet goodies. But is concerned with liability problems. So we'll have to also talk with our insurance company.

Wish me luck! : )
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Ducxl
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 06:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Best of luck to you Steve.We're all hoping your solution comes to fruition
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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Steve I know I would be happy to sign a liability waiver on the bracketry! There is certainly
a need for the product as we have all seen. Having a DOT approved lighting option that works
would be a huge benefit to all firebolt riders.

As far as getting that to you...it was no big deal, it was just gathering dust in my garage.

There are other products your shop could turn out too, but I'm not telling you anything
that you don't already know.
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Tailspining
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Please hurry, my can of chrome spray paint is nearly empty.
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Step 1 is complete, both the owners agree this would be a viable business opportunity.

Step2 is to contact insurance and lawyers.

Step3 is to pay Blake : )
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