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Tripletrouble
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There have been more and more issues posted about the quality (or lack there-of) of the RT-ONE slip-on. I've had mine on the 12S for about 4000 miles and its junk. The fit was horrible. I had to fight with the elbow forever, resisting my urge to drill out the hole. The rear bracket is right in the way of the oil lines, I ended up slitting a length of silicone hose and protecting the two hoses that are in direct contact with the hardware and/or bracket. During the last few rides I noticed a weird rattle sound on trailing throttle so I grabbed ahold of the muff, it was loose as shit. ALL of the rivet holes in the front were egg-shaped and all the sealant was blown out. I was forced to drill them all out oversize (I used aluminum rivets instead, figured it might damage the Al sleeve less than the SS ones). So I loaded it with high temp RTV and re assembled. So we'll see how long this lasts. My advice, save your money for a decent pipe.

Thanks,
Chris
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you are having trouble like that it is probably time to re-pack the pipe. these pipes do rattle and rip out the rivets when the packing is gone.

That is a known factor with these pipes. You will probably continue to tear rivets out until you do the packing job.

I'd guess that the stickers have burned off the sides of the pipe too correct?
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 04:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We have heard similar stories regarding the quality of Jardine pipes on Kawasaki Ninja 650 & other forums.

The problem is exagerated when it comes to Buell fitment because of a number of extra factors. The Jardine pipe is not specifically designed for the Buell, but is a 'generic' muffler that is used on lots of different models by using different link pipes and fitting kits.

This is fine for IL4 bikes, and to a lesser extent some of the higher revving twins, but Buells are notoriously harder on exhausts than most other bikes due to vibration, location of the pipe and the power pulses of the engine.

(Message edited by trojan on September 19, 2007)
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Isham
Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Everyone knows the aluminum Jardine pipe is junk which probably explains why it's discontinued from the factory. The titanium I have has lasted really well. The problem with the aluminum one is that the rivets and the end caps are made of ss and the core is very soft aluminum. With all the shacking the bike does its only a matter of time the rivets will enlarge the soft metal core.

Repacking the pipe wont do much it will tear itself apart eventually. If you care to keep the pipe you could probably have a steel outer shell made for it.
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Ustorque
Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i went with the carbon fiber jardine and have about 1500 mi on it now but i'll keep everyone informed on how it hold up.
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Tripletrouble
Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, I will probably just make a CF (or SS) sleeve for it. I made a set of CF cans for my speed triple and they held up fine (and sounded SICK!). Granted that doesn't have the same vibration and power pulses, plus its alot further down stream. There isn't much to a perf. core muffler, the hardest part is sourcing the perf. core.

Chris
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