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Adrenaline0210
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey guys, Just got my motor back in my xb recently.(03'xb9s) Went through and checked all wiring per manual. Everything seems fine. When i start the bike it runs kind of rough then check engine light comes up and runs fine. Drive around block everything seems ok however still have check engine light on and the fan never comes on there after. Anyone have any ideas to where to start?
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Fmaxwell
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd recommend getting ECMSpy (free) and a cable, and then using it to check the fault codes. Then run diagnostics.

If the Check Engine Light is on, there's probably a fault code that will tell you exactly what to look for.

If you were in the Washington, DC area, I'd offer to do a read on your bike, but perhaps there are Badwebber's in your area with ECMSpy or VDSTS who could help.

There's also the easy, but more expensive way out: Have the dealer plug in and read the fault codes.
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Skully
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nick,

Your bike is equipped from the factory with the ability to tell you what is wrong. No software is required. Do you have a factory service manual?

Keith
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Snackbar64
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had the same exact problem. I checked the fuse box and my cooling fan fuse was blown. I replaced it and check engine light came back on shortly afterwards. Cooling fan still would not turn on. After taking it to the dealer, it was discovered that my fan was causing the ecm to fail. It was replaced along with the fan. No problems since.
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Adrenaline0210
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the manual for the xb9r which should be pretty identical. I just need to I guess figure out how to get the codes.

Where would I go about getting that cable for the ecm spy?

Im ready to go to the dealer soon with it and pay the 30$ or whatever its going to be to read the code!
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Mdm
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

First thing to do is locate your diagnostic test plug under the seat. It's an empty four pin connector. If you're looking at it with the pins facing you and the locking tab at the 12:00 position, the pins are numbered as follows:

Pin 1 -- upper right corner
Pin 2 -- lower right corner
Pin 3 -- lower left corner
Pin 4 -- upper left corner

With the ignition switch off, install a jumper wire across pins 1 and 2 in the diagnostic plug.

Turn the ignition switch to the ON position and wait approximately 8 seconds for the check engine light to start flashing.

All trouble codes are sent out as a series of flashes. To rettrieve the first digit of the code, simply observe the number of times the lamp flashes.

The transmission of a trouble code is always preceeded by six rapid flashes (about 3 per second). This transmission is followed by a 2 second pause in which the lamp is off. The lamp will then flash one or more times to indicate the first digit of the trouble code. The length of time that the lamp will be either on or off when indicating a trouble code is about 1 second in duration.

Following the transmission of the first digit in the trouble code, there will be another two second pause before the second digit is transmitted.

After the second digit is transmitted, there will be another 2 second pause. After the pause comes another intermission (six rapid flashes) after which the next stored code is transmitted in the same manner. Once all the trouble codes have been displayed, the sequence will repeat.

If all you observe is the rapid flashing, then no trouble codes have been stored.

When done, turn the ignition key off and remove the jumper wire.

Connect the jumper to the #1 and #2 terminals on the data link (marked on the back).

code
11: TPS
13: O2 sensor
14: Engine temp sensor
15: IAT sensor
16: Battery Voltage
23: Front injector
24: Front ignition coil
25: Rear ignition coil
32: rear injector
33: Fuel pump
35: Tach
36: Fan
44: Bank Angle sensor
52,53,54,55: ECM failure
56: Cam sync failure.

There is no way to clear trouble codes using this method. The only way to clear codes without hooking the bike up to a computer is to take the bike through 50 start and run cycles (start engine, run for at least 30 seconds, shut it off).
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Mdm
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

above cut-n-past from past posts
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