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Olinxb12r
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So I met my girlfriend for lunch yesterday on the bike and the troubles started when I left to go back to work. I tried to start the bike and head back to work, but I didn't have anything but clicks. After that I attempted to push start the bike multiple times. I gave up on that after at least 10 tries and only getting the bike to turn over once and die. After that a friend jumped the bike with his Jeep, and we got the bike started but it died as soon as I disconnected the jumpers. There was also a strange clicking or clacking sound that I've never heard before in 14,000 miles. I finally had to load the bike in to another friends' truck, and leave it in the warehouse at work. I'm going to start working on getting a new stator and replace my battery too. Anyone know how much a stator costs?

What do you think?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sure sounds like a stator to me, though it could still be a really bad battery or a bad battery connection. The bike barely runs without a battery and sounds awful.

Run the impedance test on the stator, you will probably find one or more of the leads shorted to ground or at infinity. Hopefully you did not rip a magnet off the stator bell as well.

They are fairly pricey for what you get, over $100 as I recall.

I wouldn't run it anymore until you fixed it.
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Wantxbr
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check the charging system, battery included.
The clicking sound is your starter trying to turn over but doesn't have enough power. May simply be the battery is done and wont except a charge.

If you have your Manual check in there for step by step instructions on how to check your stator and regulator

If you don't I have the 07 manual and it shouldn't be too much different so I can help ya out if needed.
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Olinxb12r
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Want can you send me the couple pages of the manual that detail how to check the stator and regulator? I would really appreciate it!

james_olin@hotmail.com

I know the battery is toast as it has been headed in that direction for some time. It would be so awesome if the problem is only the battery, but I'm not really counting on it.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My whole charging system died one by one.
If it is one CHECK THE REST too because the voltage regulator stator and starter all died once the battery did.
It all started at about 14,000 miles too.

(Message edited by buelltroll on July 04, 2007)
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Olinxb12r
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Troll, do you know the procedure for checking the stator and the regulator? Since I know the battery is f'd I'm going to get a new one and start it charging here in a couple minutes. I would like to check the other two while I'm putting in the new battery, but I don't know how to do it.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It was explained to me on here not too long ago even though I have the manual I'm kinda retarded sometimes.
Do a search of my posts for the last couple months and its bound to show up.
I sure don't feel like copying it word for word from the manual.
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Prof_stack
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buy a new battery and you just might be fine. My XB9S was clicking and not working right last summer. New battery and all was right again. No stator problems.

Maybe you will be as fortunate.
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Wantxbr
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stator Check

locate voltage reg. connector under sprocket cover and disconnect.
Insert one ohm test lead into one stator socket. Attach other lead to ground.
Test for continuity with meter set to RX1 .
A good stator will show no continuity across all stator sockets and ground
Any other reading indicates a grounded stator which must be replaced.
Next check resistance with both leads one in each stator socket. Resistance should be between 0.1 and 0.3 If the resistance is lower the stator needs to be replaced.
AC OUTPUT.
Connect an AC Voltmeter to stator sockets 1&2
Run engine at 2000 RPM AC output should be between 32 and 40 volts... 16 to 20 volts per 1000 rpm.
Repeat test on leads 2&3 and then 1&3
If the output is below specs, charging problem could be a faulty stator or rotor.
If test is good the its a possible faulty regulator.

If your Battery is bad that could be your whole problem but check your charging output when you install your battery. If voltage is above 14.9 volts then your over charging and the regulator should be replaced aswell.
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Xb9ser
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pull one of the inspection covers on the primary and smell. if it stinks very bad stator is toast
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Wantxbr
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Very good idea but doesn't always tell you if the stator is bad. But still a very good idea.
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Olinxb12r
Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I picked up a new battery and it has been charging for a couple hours. I'll leave it charging overnight and see what happens tomorrow. I'll have to borrow a couple tools in order to check the stator and regulator, so I'll probably do the smell test and try to nurse the bike to a friends place. Thanks for sending the copies of the manual Asbjorn! That was fast! I'll let you guys know what I figure out tomorrow.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, July 05, 2007 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wouldn't spin up the motor anymore until you work out what that clacking sound is.

Stator repairs are in the "minor annoyance and expense" category. Chewed up cranks and transmissions are in the "game over" category.

If you have a loose stator bell or a magnet bouncing around in there, things could go very bad very quickly.

I posted a charging system diagnosis procedure in the knowledge vault. It's for the tuber, but would work pretty well on an XB as well. Its not as thorough as the factory procedure, but is faster and less work.
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Olinxb12r
Posted on Thursday, July 05, 2007 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I put the new battery in this morning and the bike fired right up. I didn't hear any of the sound that I heard on Tuesday when it fired this morning, and it did hold the idle no problem. The only issue is the check engine light did come back on, so I'm a little confused as to what the problem is. I'm moving this weekend, so I'll probably leave it in the warehouse at work till next week. After that I'll try to get it down to a friends place to check the stator, regulator and run the error codes for the check engine light.
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