| Author | Message | ||
     Goozyman |
as a bandaid solution, i procured an inexpensive set of VERY LIGHTLY used [1 or 2 laps]set of Pirelli Supercorsa Pro tires. Has anyone got an opinion, or currently use race takeoffs on the street? People talk about heat cycling, how would this positively /adversely effect street performance? I know because of the rounded profile, they turn in a lot quicker, so that may be nice also | ||
| Trojan |
Most race tyres, even if they look lightly used, have been worked extremely hard and are past their best by thetime they are taken off the race bike (otherwise why take them off?). Any performance advantage that race tyres would give you is likely to be offset by the fact that these are worn, so you won't gain toomuch (although compared to the OE Dunlops they will still be great!) Personally I would never fit any used tyres to my bike simply because I don't know their history or use, and would rather pay the extra for piece of mind. The Supercorsa Pro will wear extremely quickly, so expect to be looking for another set in under 1000 miles if you fit a used set. | ||
| Rocketman |
I use take off tyres often, as friends run a large nationally recognised bike breakers, so take offs are readily available with choice. My 916 is sat with a Super Corsa intermediate 'take off' on the rear. When I put it on it was clearly more 'shaped' towards one side than the other from clockwise track use, but it soon went 'rounded' in profile after a few miles on the road. Now here's a thing. I'm of the philosophy perhaps were I really can't feel a difference, better or worse, between one good make of tyre and another good make of tyre, given both brands are like for like tyres. Imagine my surprise when I took the 916 out on the take off tyre. It has NEVER handled better and the difference is VERY noticeable! Draw your own conclusions from your own experiences would be my advice. Rocket | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I have a brand new set of track tires, but the run date is Feb of 04. Use 'em or trash 'em? | ||
| Etennuly |
Well don't eat them! Good God man! The only man made product known to be good that far after the expiration date is Spam! As long as the tires have been kept inside, out of the sun, and not flat stacked, I would check very closely for weather cracking in the casing and tread. If they look good I'd mount them up and run a few easy miles to warm them up. Get off and check them again for cracks or splitting. If they look good run them hard and check them again. As you should do with any tire, monitoring is the key. | ||
| Elff |
I used to only use race take offs on my ZX-6R They lasted a good 2-3000 miles each time. My cost was to get them mounted. We had a close friend who used to work for one of the tire company's so we knew exactly how the tires were previously used. never had any problems. | ||
| Spatten1 |
PM Ortegakid. He has used supercosa take-offs on the street for years. He is a very good rider and will give you great feedback on his experience with them. | ||
| Smokescreen |
I currently have Pilot Power Races on my XB9. I have had them for about 2000 miles and some change and they still handle pretty decent. I have thrashed them in Suches and have alot of confidence in them. They were suspension setup tires (meaning they were run for a couple of laps to dial in the settings), have had no problems out of them so far. I do believe the reason I have had such good wear out of them is my daily commute to work is 12 miles, so I don't think they even get warm by the time I get to work. On top of all of that the price was right to boot! Smokescreen | ||
| Motornoggin |
One or two laps probably will not have damaged them from too much heat. Hard to say. Had a friend crash while using a set of take off race tires. He was convinced it was because they had been heat cycled too many times. I'm wondering how you could prove it was the tires fault and not just a lapse of judgment or target fixation or road debris, or... IF they look good and are still sticky/soft then I would think they are o.k. | ||
| Freezerburn |
I'm using a set of Pirelli Supercorsa Pro Dragons that are take-offs. They were in good shape and all I can say is wow. They are holding up as I expected being soft compound but I sure have way more confidence in these than the old 'lops'. Two sets of take-off cost me less than one new set and give me about 1 1/2 times the use. I have seen take-offs for sale that really shouldn't have been sold...or given away, though. | ||
| Spatten1 |
Yeah, you have to look along the edge of the tire. If they are too blued then they are probably cooked. If someone has been using tire warmers inbetween runs they can be in great shape. Especially if it is a real racer that won't ride them until they are totally shot. | ||
| Rocketman |
I'm amazed by the amount of Buell riders using track take offs. You're all a credit to recycling! 'Go Green' Buells anyone??? Rocket | ||
| Tdiddy |
I was told a track tire won't get to temp on the street. We (street riders) don't go fast enough for long enough. From the post's above, I seems to be different than what I thought. | ||
| Tdiddy |
I had a bunch of Lance Armstrong's used tires. I got them when he was training for his last tour de france. I lost them in a move last year but still have 21 or 22 of his water bottles. His mechanic said there used once and tossed out. He was staying at a hotel I worked at in Ojai and training on the 33. | ||
| Cochise |
I still have my front Battleaxe race take off and it still holds awesome. I'd buy them again, great grip, pretty good life. | ||
| Blake |
Be careful in the wet. The race tires have little to no wet-grip enhancing silicon compounds like street tires do, so they are very treacherous on wet pavement. And also, what Tdiddy said. Street riding is very unlikely to ever get a set of race tires up to optimum temperature, so you'll not likely ever be able to take advantage of the race tire's phenomenal racing grip potential. However, it's not so much how fast one goes that heats up race tires, it's more how hard one brakes and accelerates that puts the heat into the rubber.  In preparation for track type use, if you can go out and do about 10 consecutive uninterrupted cycles of maximum rolling acceleration from 2nd to 3rd gears (20 mph to 80 mph) with very aggressive hard braking in between, you'll likely have the tires heated up fairly well. But they are still plenty grippy even if not brought up to optimum cooking-hot track type temperatures, just not on a wet surface. So just try to avoid riding on a wet surface if you can help it. If you can't help doing so, please be extremely careful. |
