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Surlypacer
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 05:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a set of crossroads bars. Love them, Present from wife. The clutch pull is hard but i can do it, The throttle cables only stick when full left turn, then they bind. Anyone reroute or have a better set up. I currently don't have any problems. The clutch cable will wear faster and one day maybe my throttle will stick? Should i modify the cable lay out?
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Darkducati
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 05:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There isn't much you can do about the cable routing. The throttle and clutch should free up a bit as you ride it. I put mine together over winter and it felt pretty bad. However, after I rode it and got things heated up it has felt fine ever since. Mine gets stuck at full lock too so I think thats normal. It shouldn't be an issue as I can't imagine needing to use the throttle at full lock. Post up some pics.
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Trojan
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 05:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Try fitting the clutch cable from an XB9R. This is routed better and has a steel guide at the lever end to help with the bend. I found it a lot better when using clip ons on the XB9S.

Throttle cables can be re-routed slightly to stop them sticking. You just have to mess around for a short while to get the best setup you can.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 06:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

www.badweatherbikers.com./buell/messages/32777/986 22.html?//08957834
Try looking here.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 07:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used an R cable, took off the metal curve end (you pretty much have to) and the re-routed the clutch cable threw a hole I drilled in the side of the module that holds the fly screen. Like this (this is done on a mod with the R triple on an S, but it's the same way I did it)
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Surlypacer
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 07:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How did you route you throttle cables? Everything works fine its just a lot of drag on the cable. Which will put a great deal of wear and tear on the cables.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 07:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have no issues what so ever with the throttle cable.
You may want to give it the once over.
Take off the clip ons and make sure all the turns the cable has to make are as gentle as possible.
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Surlypacer
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have another question for the guys who drilled a hole through the side plate that holds the fairing. How much of a difference did it make routing the clutch cable this way. Was it a huge difference or minor. I can pull my cable, its tough but i can do it. Did going through the side make it easy like stock or still a lot of resistance? I also found a post that trojan horse didn't go through the cable hole in the top triple tree anyone try this set up.
I am trying to get the least amount of cable bends/resistance. My luck my cable will break when i'm out riding. A little brain power and work will hopefully prevent this from happening.
Thanks to all for your help
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Al_lighton
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Both the throttle pul and return cable have sheath length adjusters on them. The total amount of free play in the throttle system (i.e., how much movement the throttle has before making any difference at the throttle body) is determined by both. I've seen several cases where changing both of them (moving one out, the other in) took cables that were binding and made them not bind. So play with that.

I do like the hole drill solution on the clutch side, I think it makes the cleanest clutch run without an S bend, and likely minimizes clutch cable friction and wear as a result. But I put the hydraulic clutch on mine and it solves the problems even better.

Al
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Squash
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a pair of crossroads bars on a 03, I had hella time getting it all together ..I tucked everything but the cables under the bars
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Surlypacer
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well I drilled a hole in the side. Its a lot better. The trick is to run the clutch cable up over the engine key thing. Not if front of it. It feels really good now. I used a grommet from home depot and it looks like it stock. The little black bushing on the clutch cable is crap. I had to make a replacement. I don.t want the clutch cable eating into my CRG levers. Anyone know if you can buy a new cable ferrule thing. I guess thats what you call it?
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Surlypacer
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The throttle cables binding is due to the placement of the throttle cable and wire bundle when it exits the wire bundle clamp. I looked around and I might take my throttle cable out of this clamp when i have the forks off. Cant really get to the bolts holding the clamp on. I think if the throttle cables would just hang out of the clamp but inside the fork tube maybe not as much throttle cable binding?
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Xb12s_streetdemon
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have the crossroads and you have to pull the clutch cable out and run it up through the front cowl and drill a hole in the side where it lines up with your clutch lever. o6ther wise it WILL bind.

sorry it dont have any pics.

tear it up!!!
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Jpxb9
Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



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Tx05xb12s
Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This bar set is not the easiest mod to do, but it can be done without any cable binding. I played with my cables every night for a week before I finally got it all set up right.

Take your flyscreen off and remove the airbox cover and airbox subassembly so you can get to the cables all the way to the fuel injector. I found that my throttle cables were binding behind the flyscreen mostly, and solved the problem by playing with slack between the bars and the fuel injector. I also found the idler cable and throttle cable twisted over each other in the flyscreen area behind the ignition switch and also bound up with electrical wiring. After a little cable rerouting and once I got everything untangled and adjusted the slack from end to end, it works perfectly lock to lock.

As for the clutch, I didn't have any trouble but did add a piece of fuel line around the clutch cable where it meets the clipon bracket. It looks like it would rub a hole in it eventually on the sharp edges if I didn't.

If anyone's interested in any pics of my install or have any questions, let me know. I'm always glad to help out and have already helped several badwebbers install their Crossroads Bars.
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Surlypacer
Posted on Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yes if you have pics, that would help.
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Donl
Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don`t think there is a need to drill holes. I installed mine with no problems. What I did was cut back the outer protective covering on the clutch down just below the the hole on the top of the forks. After that everything worked just fine.
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2k3lightning
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I too agree with the above installs I installed my bars without drilling a hole and the clutch felt smoother than it ever did brand new. I had issues with the throttle cables but they finally worked just like Tx explained
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Spatten1
Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2007 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The throttle cables only stick when full left turn, then they bind

I have the same problem. I checked new bikes on the dealer's floor, same thing. They stuck at full left lock too.

I did re-route mine behind the fly screen They make a goofy S bend stock. I just turned it into a big looping L. It does rub some on chassis bolts now, so I keep an eye on it.
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