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Surlypacer
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 05:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know some of the sponsors here make and sell really nice axle sliders. Wish I could get them. I have to equip 2 buells,mine and my wifes, with axle sliders. What is the verdict with hard skate board wheels. Did the "it grips and flips the bike!! pan out. Or "Doesn't really matter" Any experience out there?
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


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I use them. I like the way they look, and there is a infinite variety of colors and sizes available. These are Ricta Orange Crystals.

I got the idea from my nephew Ben, who races on the West Coast. I haven't "crashed tested " them, but Ben has, and he says they work as intended.

I also like the fact that they are rather economical compared to the other alternatives. You need to get the bearings to mount them properly.
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147db
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 06:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use 2 Basf silver painted wheels bolted on a threaded bar. 1,75 EUR of investment!

http://www.147db.com/xb9sx/XB9SX31.jpg
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Surlypacer
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

147bd- did you use bearings or just washers?
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147db
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bearings?!?
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147db
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I mean: the wheels are fixed, they don't spin...
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Surlypacer
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

any suggestions on how to keep the threaded rod centered in the axle?
love your youtube video, reminds of of johahnes kruz in kasiserslautern, dont know how its spelled.
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147db
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Who is J.K.? Another european recklessrider?!? : )

I keep the bar in the center of the axle thanks to two small pieces of rubber to make the external diameter of the bar equal to the inner diameter of the axle.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


xxXx


This is a little axle I put together from misc.hardware store bits.

The aluminum piece in the center is a 1 inch threaded part from something or other, it was ground down a bit to fit in the front Buell axle, and then locked to the right hand bolt with another nut, and a bit of loctite.

A couple of washers at each outboard end take the compression, so the wheels can turn a little.

Total assembly time: five minutes. Total trips to hardware store: a few:-)
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


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This is what the outboard end looks like .

You can see how the bearings support the wheel and fit right on the bolt.

Nice thing with this set up is it looks clean: no exposed threaded rod to rust.
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Brineusaf
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

any suggestions on how to keep the threaded rod centered in the axle?
love your youtube video, reminds of of johahnes kruz in kasiserslautern, dont know how its spelled.


I ride there... very nice place.
Already a few crashes this year by some unlucky riders though.

(Message edited by brineusaf on March 24, 2007)
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Brineusaf
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The following is all of my frieds lowside.
Story has it he had a brake fluid leak from the front end causing him to lowside (lost traction in a turn). The bike went down on the RIGHT side, and SLID, it didn't flip, or even come close to righting itself - it just slid. He let go of the bike... he slid one way the bike the other... only bad part is... the Hayabusa behind him seemed attracted to his sliding.. he got ran over.

Results of the crash:
Grinded down bar-end sliders.
Bent/Grinded down axle sliders.
Shredded Carbon Fiber Frame Covers.
Tires were worn to the cords from being dragged.
Dent/Scrape in the frame where the CF Cover was shredded through by the road.
Scratched Airbox Cover.
Smashed Oil Filter.
Broken Oil Line.
Bent handlebars.
Dented/Bent out of shape headers.
Broken header stud.
Front Brake Lever Broken.
A Few broken ribs.
Broken Shoulder.
Scrapes/Bruises all over.





The following pictures are NOT of my bike.
The following pictures ARE of my friends bike, which is being restored in my garage.


The above picture is of the rear slider, it was on the RIGHT side during the accident, and is just currently laying in the axle - hence the reason it's on the LEFT side now.


This is the front slider, as you can see... it bent- but still sustained some of the impact of the collision. It never broke off, or caused the bike to flip, ect ect.


The above picture is a close-up of the front axle slider.



The above pictures are of the smashed header. They were pushed up during the crash. The muffler (a Spec Ops), wasn't even touching the header - thats how much it was bent up. The force must have broken the header stud- our conclusion.


The frame. Insurance DID NOT write this off (german company). There used to be a CF Cover on there - but it was shredded. I have that as well, just forgot to take pictures of it.


The bike as it is now.
All the parts are here, minus the CF Cover - just haven't had time to install them all.





Note:
Sorry these aren't clear orange/red - we have our pride to consider.
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Brineusaf
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh, and they are made from a just a threaded rod - with washers and lock-nuts on each end.

No need to get fancy and add bearings, especially when it isn't going to spin on contact anyways.

I personally have the DHM Sliders - for the visual factor above the skateboard wheels.

Personally, I don't believe the wheels will cause the bike to flip- or do anything other than slide. I do believe the wheels offer more protection by being larger than the DHM sliders - contact area further away from forks/swingarm - less chance of other areas around the sliders scraping.
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Surveyor
Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

only bad part is... the Hayabusa behind him seemed attracted to his sliding.. he got ran over.

Target fixation is your enemy
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Williboyny
Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brineusaf

Does the other side of the bike look like sunshine and lollipops?
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Brineusaf
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 04:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Williboyny

The other side is just fine.

Funny you should ask.

We were trailering it to my house... and were driving in the right lane on the autobahn, and everyone was passing us giving us a thumbs up, if only they could have seen the other side. haha
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Skully
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi Kyle,

What diameter are the wheels?

Thanks,
Keith
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Isham
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I knew those carbon fiber frame covers were just for looks and not practical. I'm trying to get some real frame sliders to go with my pucks.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm looking to add these myself. The smallest diameter wheel is about 49mm.

Look at these measurements:

Diameter
Width
Cut (round, flat, combination, etc.)
Durability (hardness)

The hardest wheels are 100 or 101 hardness.

I'm trying to decide whether it would be better to use harder wheels which would tend to slide longer and not wear down as quickly in a spill or ones which are a little softer and would tend to grind down but would provide a little grip to slow the slide.
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