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Danman2540
Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ewItem&item=230082029332

First will it fit on a Buell? Then, has anybody ever tried one? How much cooler does it make it?
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Lucas70374
Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

no, you might want to try a scotts oil filter, really nice and reuseable
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Spiderman
Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They are junk, your oil cooler is more than that piece of tin could ever be...
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, February 06, 2007 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

isnt there already an actual oil cooler on the bike? right under the left hand side air duct? That thing looks like a decorative sleve, I cant see it cooling the oil, but making the surface that you touch lower because you have added another layer over the top. Not an engineer but I think it is more decorative than functional. I would pass, besides in chrome? who wants to clean that ?
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Swordsman
Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL! Fins for an oil filter? That's hilarious! It might work a little if it was built in, but a sleeve of any kind would only help insulate it!

~SM
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It won't fit the filter on the XB.
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Davy_boy
Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

looks stupid !!!!
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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Minimal airflow over the oil filter on an XB.

Worried about hot???? Try the controversial right side air duct.

Now that is the way to high jack a thread.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If the sleve was decently thermally conductive, and well connected (thermally) to the filter, it would indeed help cool the oil in the filter, as it is creating more surface area for heat to dissipate.

That being said, it will never be anywhere near what the stock oil cooler does.

My XB seems to run nice and cool all the time. There does not seem to be a thermal problem to solve.

I could feel the M2 start to suffer when it was hot though. Doubt bolting anything to an oil filter would have solved it.

I also learned the hard way that adding weight to the oil filter (for example by running a bigger oil filter) makes it easier for said filter to back off. On River Road. At 3:30 on a friday afternoon. What a mess that was....
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Kootenay
Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmmm...it seems to me that the best way to improve oil cooling might be to weld some cooling fins on the oil tank section of the swingarm... (probably wouldn't cool the oil while welding, though! )
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Sparky
Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

American Sport Bike has a billet oil cooler, about the size of a tuber oil filter, that screws onto the OF fitting first, then the oil filter screws into it. That's a much better setup, IMO... and it looks good on a '96 S1. : )
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Old_man
Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The oil filter on the Buell is located near the exhaust header.
It is possible that the heat from the header may actually heat the oil because of this device.
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Tigerbythetail
Posted on Thursday, February 08, 2007 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hi...............the problem with the Billet oil filter that contains the steel micromesh insert is that you need to secure it with a wire. I nearly had a nasty accident in 2005 when I had fitted this filter not knowing that it needs wirering...........the filter became loose on the motorway and just by lucky coincidence I was saved. My inititial reason for fitting it was to increase the oil flow by reducing the resistance of the filter and to be able to see what is floating about. That was a mistake on my part..............one you do not need to make.

Again stop mucking about with the well done bits of the XB. Fit a right sided carbon air intake and the bike will run considerably cooler.

tiger
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Jpxb9
Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had the billet oil filter for years on my XB9 and I never used a wire !
No trouble at all until now
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Tigerbythetail
Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have discussed this problem with Brian Nallin and some other guys and they confirmed that this is a known issue for the type of filter I was using (bought it from NHRS). Its a nice show piece but no real functional advantage. The bigger oil cooler from TH UK sounds interesting. Here I can see how additional cooling happens.........the carbon funnel is unfortunately not very pretty....I will add this to my todo list for 2008.......thats a promise

tiger
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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tiger I would just use sythetic oil and the stock cooler should be enough, Don't worry duetschland ist nicht zu hiess hope I spelled it right. I also just started looking at apartments in Wiesbaden I might be buying one in the summer my wife was born there and so was my oldest son so I hope to be on the german roads soon
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Teddagreek
Posted on Friday, February 09, 2007 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That can also act as heat sink as well...

Keep that in mind...

This Idea has been around a long time and there are numerous kits out there.

I would really like to see a oil dip stick with a thermometer on it for my bike..





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Tigerbythetail
Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 06:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hi.............Brumbear I know Wiesbaden well from my school days.......give us a shout when you got your place. I than show you were you can have fun with the XB.

Regards the cooling...........you are absolutely right that the standard XB does not need fiddeling with the cooling of the oil...........but my new little baby could do with a little help.....1208.....8000 RPM short stroke. Have a look at my site www.tigerbythetail.de in case you are interested.

tiger
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

nice ride pas auf BMW DER BUELL KOMMT
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Old_man
Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Before I would put one of those "heat sink" devices on my Buell, I would need to see test results of their effectiveness at reducing the oil temperature.
They would transfer heat from the oil if the air nearby could cool them.
The problem with the Buell oil filter is it's placement in such close proximity to the exhaust header.
The exhaust header is MUCH hotter than engine oil.
It seems probable to me that this device would transfer the heat from the header to the oil, rather than heat from the oil to cool air.
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