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Blake
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I prefer exercise. Diets are for chicks.
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Dynarider
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 01:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And no comments from anyone on the Trojan horse parts in the pics? The swingarm sliders or the new airbox cover complete with a Kuryakn hypercharger peeking thru the top. Hard to tell how the whole lower unit where the "air scoop" used to be actually likes tho. Definately like those neat little sliders tho. Definately better than smashing & denting your frame, I just wonder if they have actually been tested yet.
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Dynarider
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 01:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And whats funny about that whole deal is they slap on a slew of carbon fiber...you know cause "its lightweight & you will go faster" LOL, but then there is a 5 lb air cleaner sitting up on top of everything. Definately fits into the poser category. Does look pretty cool tho.
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Dynarider
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Exercise all ya want , but unless you cut back on your fat content it wont make a difference. There is a reason treadmills dont hold a TV tray or come with a soda holder

I could just see Blake jogging on a treadmill while licking the bar-b-que sauce off of a slab of pork ribs:D
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't forget the beer.

The idea is to maintain normal caloric intake while increasing caloric expenditure. When calories absorbed is less than calories burned, you lose fat. Simple. All these silly diets are just variations on that very simple and true equation. If you are fat and want to drop some excess poundage you can starve yourself lowering your metabolic rate, losing muscle and fat, or you can exercise build muscle while burning fat and increasing your metabolic rate.

As to that Trojan hot rod airbox cover. It is kinda cool from a hot rod custom bike standpoint.

As for the frame sliders for Buells... I wonder if they are protecting against cosmetic damage but exacerbating the likelyhood of actual serious structural damage (bent frame). The outboard skin of the XB9's frame/tank where it bulges and first meets the ground in a tip over is not a load carrying structural component except for torsion. Axial load will follow the stiffest path. The sharp bend in the outboard wall of the tank/frame is akin to a coathanger with a 90o bend in its middle. Push or pull on the ends of such a bent coat hanger and it simply moves out of the way without being able to carry any significant load. So, like the bent coat hanger the outer wall of the tank/frame cannot carry any significant axial load. The upper and lower and inside walls being nice and straight are carrying all the axial and bending loads in the XB9's frame/tank at/near the bulge. Thus, a dent in the outboard wall of the frame/tank in that section will be largely inconsequential. And, its ability to carry torsional loads will not be compromised as long as it remains a closed section (can still hold fuel).

Now consider what happens if the bike goes down and hits hard onto a frame slider... if the frame slider is locally mounted to the bottom face of the frame it could very well impart stresses high enough to deform that part of the frame. The frame is then rendered deformed. Instead of a superficial/cosmetic dent in a largely nonstructural portion of the frame, you may end up with a seriously bent frame. Bondo is cheap and easy to use. Trying to straighten a cast aluminum frame is a bit more challenging.

Just something to consider. :)
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Chainsaw
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake:

coughtopiccough!

Since you brought up frame sliders...here's a wacky idea. Bar end mirrors on a Firebolt, stock turn signals relocated to original mirror mount positions, generic frame sliders mounted to original turn signal positions. I think they'd stick out far enough, but do you think they'd do any good from that mounting position? (It is metal bolted to the frame!) Coupled with that swingarm slider....hmmm...

ChainSaw
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Dynarider
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if you look at the pic of the frame slider it appears to be mounted onto velcro...you could always move it up higher or attach a bigger slider..ie a knee puck onto the velcro..that would spread the load out.

Its also impossible to tell what the lower section is made of. Is it carbon fiber, plastic, aluminum?? Definately appears to have an air gap between it & the frame, perhaps its stiff enough & mounted in such a way that it wont contact the frame in an accident?
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Jim_witt
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake wondered:
As for the frame sliders for Buells... I wonder if they are protecting against cosmetic damage but exacerbating the likelyhood of actual serious structural damage (bent frame).


Why waste your time on sliders when you can have one these puppies on each side of your lean mean cornering machine.

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-JW:>0


(Message edited by jim_witt on May 10, 2003)
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Shotgun
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake said: "The idea is to maintain normal caloric intake while increasing caloric expenditure. When calories absorbed is less than calories burned, you lose fat. Simple. All these silly diets are just variations on that very simple and true equation. If you are fat and want to drop some excess poundage you can starve yourself lowering your metabolic rate, losing muscle and fat, or you can exercise build muscle while burning fat and increasing your metabolic rate."
Read Atkins sometime like the 14 million others who have bought the revised book. Eat protein and fat. Avoid carbohydrates. Increase exercise from your current level. Lose weight. (period) You end up losing weight even if your calories increase. It flies in the face of what your momma taught you about nutrition. But you never feel "starved or deprived" like on a typical diet. If you're hungry, eat meat or cheeze. My idol, Steve Breslow, in our BRAG club has lost 45+ pounds so far. He fits into his old leathers. He has 3 eggs and three bacon for breakfast each morning. He's still losing. HOw much would 3 pounds of carbon fiber replacements cost you per week?
Don't knock it til you've tried it.
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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't give a crap what these "experts" say, you need balanced nutrition and an active lifestyle to be healthy.

I think those protein diets are crap, too.

Right now though, I'm not eating or exercising except for wrestlin' my Buell...and well one other thing...

I hardly have the time for exercise, damnit.

Carbon fiber rocks...I've found it survives substituted where steel plate has failed.

Now if I could only afford magnesium and titanium...I have gained 15lbs, after all
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Dynarider
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My wife is doing the Atkins diet right now. It actually does work..its wild seeing her cook up bacon for breakfast & cheeseburgers for lunch yet still call it a diet. Doesnt make sense but it works.

She is also into those Billy Blanks or Banks whatever the hell his name is...Tae Bo tapes. You will sweat your ass off trying to keep up with that guy.

(Message edited by dynarider on May 10, 2003)
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Grim_euphoria
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I second the Atkins diet thing, I'm on it now so's the wife. Lost five pounds this week. Hardest part is staying away from the soda pop.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What was that you said about exercise? :/

All that fat is real good for your heart and arteries. NOT!

East a balanced diet that is low in saturated fat, exercise, avoid high risk of heart disease and cancer.

Eat a high fat low carb diet... you are asking for cancer and heart disease. If dying thin is your goal, that diet is a great way to get there.

There is no free ride.
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Grim_euphoria
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 02:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Taking Zocor for the potential cholesterol problem. Death is unavoidable, sooner or later we all lose the fight against time, it's just a question of where you leave your bones (doin what you love or dying a piece at a time hooked up to a machine in somebodies old folks home).

If you keep a sharp eye out on the blood cholesterol levels the diet should be safe.
At least that's what several different doctors I have talked to have said.
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Jim_witt
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 02:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Burger Diet
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Dynarider
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 03:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I eat just about nothing but fatty, greasy, deep fired junk food & I have my cholesterol checked every year & its super low. Just did the old treadmill stress test & had all the heart passages checked out & all came back with an A++ grade. BTW, the only excercise I get is walking a bit at work or mowing my grass. I hate gyms, dont play sports, & generally just hate exercise..although I did sweat a bit this weekend while painting my shed.

Thing that sucks about the wifes diet is, she will get a craving for something..ice cream or a cake or whatever & will get a bowl full or platefull & then come & give it to me because she cant eat it. She's on diet & I have gained 10lbs Right about 230lbs now, this is the most I have ever weighed.
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Grim_euphoria
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 04:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jim_witt,
Nice picture! Damn I'm hungry! Only 5 1/2 hours till I get off work and can eat again!
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Apex1
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What type of filter element is this with the new air box mod from Force? It appears to be taller than the stock or race kit (K&N) versions. Anyone know for sure?

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/4062/26152.jpg
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Apex1
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Scooter from ATC has confirmed the Force filter element is taller (approx. 1/4" ) than the stock or K&N versions, therefore increasing it's surface area. Who makes it, though? Is it available only through Force?
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Peyote
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i started the atkins thing around february. I'm on a maintainence level now. I lost 35lbs. I was at 215 or so and now 179. A little exercise goes a long way with a low-carb regiment. I still lost without exercise to a point, but flatlined for a few weeks. Then started back exercising a little and it started coming off. You still have to watch fat content a little bit, but usually you get full before you eat too much anyway. The cool thing about this is being able to eat and feel full. One side-effect I noticed is I never have heart-burn or feel bloated when watching carbs. As soon as I cheat a little more then I plan, that bloated overstuffed feeling comes back. Anyway, it works and I'm never letting myself get out of control with weight again.

Back to topic, I'm wandering if I should consider Nallinizing my xb9r or not. If I wanted to do that now, I would have to refinance to get the money back from the 4 year extended warranty. The other options are to wait a couple years & see what comes out; or get the buell race kit now (this would be covered under warranty); or don't do anything at all and enjoy the fun ride I have.

I'd like to open it up a bit, power and sound wise.

later-
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Bud
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 06:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just to be shore :)

sorry about the Quality
it had to do it fast
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