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Spatten1
Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I tried the search function and came up empty, so I'm trying here:

I need to make a swingarm protector.

I just did a chain conversion, did a 1 mile test ride, the chain adjuster loosened, and the chain cut into the swingarm.

Can anyone give me tips on how to make and secure a swingarm protector for the top, front of the swingarm? I have some low friction snowmobile hifax but can't figure out how to secure it, other than drilling and taping the swingarm.

I need to make something. I've spent over $1000 on the bike in the last couple of months just keeping it running, and can't buy a swingarm protector on top of all of the other things I've had to buy.

Help please, and Merry Christmas!
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Ronlv
Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thats why i recomend the freespirits kit

the home made adjuster i made loosened also

i might have a extra chain guide, email me
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Xb9ser
Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe you need to take one link out of your chain?I have a couple of thousand miles on mine, 900 one weekend and it hasn't loosened yet.
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Xbob
Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what does the freespirits kit cost? i saw it on their site, but whats the conversion to american dollars?
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Xbob
Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ronlv, would you recommend the freespirits kit over that kit with the concentric chain adjuster?
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Ronlv
Posted on Monday, December 25, 2006 - 01:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yes

email me for my opionion why

later, ron
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Aeroe
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Put your opinion why on the board so we can all read it.
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Ronlv
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 02:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

sorry, i dont want to publicly say anything negative about someones product with my opionion

i actually love the way the product looks
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think that is a good position to take, but it might have been better to PM Xbob
in the first place rather than raise the concern here on the board.That is water
under the bridge though.

I'm sure that you guys can work out the answers that you're looking for off board.

However one of the purposes of the board is to share information about products that
we have used. I understand that you are in a tough position as a merchant in this
case though RonLV.

I'm sure after dealing many conversations on the board with Ron that if he has concerns
he has taken them up with the company producing the parts. Feedback from the end users
is how they find issues and upgrade their components.
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My chain tensioner should not loosen again. I filled the gap in the top of the slotted hole with a piece of a 3/8 bolt and shimmed it with a piece of a size 8 machine screw to get the right tension.

The result is that the pressure point on the modified tensioner is in the same place as stock, the top of the slotted hole. Using a stock size bolt as the spacer should put the tension where it belongs, and the tensioner can no loner pivot down under pressure.

As the chain loosens I'll just use different size screws to shim the piece of 3/8 bolt until the chain has the desireable amount of freeplay.

BUT I'LL STILL TAKE ANY HELP I CAN GET TO MAKE A SWINGARM PROTECTOR!!! I'M BEGGING!
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Xbob
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

spatten1 - did you use a chain conversion kit? or did you make your own?

picture?
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got help from Saintly. His methods are very easy. Just PM him.

I can post pictures tonight from home, don't have any here at work.

I've got it ready to ride, but I live in Denver. It will be a while before I get any miles on it if the weather doesn't change soon.
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pics of the bolt and screw shoved in the slot to ensure that the adjuster/tensioner does not slip:






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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Using different size screws or bolts under the 3/8 bolt gives infinite adjustability.

Shimming with a size 10 machine screw was too tight, so I used a size 8. It really made a significant difference.

My slot is fairly sloppy. I was getting frustrated because I had to do this work after having my engine down for a couple of months and was just ready to ride again. You could do a much cleaner job with more patience.

(Message edited by spatten1 on December 28, 2006)
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What_the
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

spatten1

Hal's makes them for the older XB swingarms. They come with their chain conversion kit. Buy a few, consider it consumable.

If you have installed a newer style die cast XB swingarm, then just buy one for the XBRR.

If you are compelled to make one, then perhaps go to a local plastics retailer, and buy a strip of black UHMW or Nylatron GS.
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the tips!
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Roadrcr
Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

spatten1
Give Kevin a call. kdfab.com He built his own chain conversion and had problems with it scratching the swingarm. He built some kind of protecting thing for it and it works and looks great. So far there are no problems with it coming loose or even showing wear. The xb9 has been through a lot this season on the track. this track testing shows the durability of everything on the drummer xb9. check him out
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Spatten1
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks, I'll give Kevin a call.
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Fullpower
Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

slotted a chunk of UHMW, hose clamped to swingarm..... 13,000 miles no problems.
I suggest that you fashion an "L" bracket out of 1/8" strap , slotted for adjust ment, to connect the tensioner sprocket axle to the swing arm pivot lockbolt. still quick easy adjustment, and it will hold for a thousand miles of hard use.
email or pm for details.
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