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Davy_boy
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good point !! I think we got off the subject a bit , it is a nice bike and cheaper then you would expect and your right like most I'm not going to own a buell forever . But having an opinion is what makes these boards interesting .
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The 1098 seems like a sweet deal. I wonder what the trade off is that allows the decrease in price from the 999.
Also, looking at the website I don't see anything about the 749/999 anymore. Are they no longer in production? If so what is going to replace the 749?
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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Call me crazy... I'd take this one first.



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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

but that's no longer true with Pierre Terblanche being the stylist

that Pierre is not a great design man, if this is indeed his design as I assume it is.


Actually Pierre was kept well away from the design, and he now works with the master, Massimo, over at Cagiva Research Centre

The 1098 was designed using CAD/CAM development until a complete virtual bike existed rather than using conventional prototyping.

Rocket
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Snackbar64
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is a chance to own an Italian exotic. The MV Agusta F4 1000, is the only bike that looks better, but is too expensive. For 15 large you get that kind of exclusivity. The Ferrari of Motorcycles. Single sided swingarm, need I say more? The 999 bikes have been replaced by this bike in my opinion. There are three versions, just like the 749, 999s and 999r, which were virtually the same bike. This new 1098 out performs them all for less money. No brainer.
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Freezerburn
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It looks like a red phantom about to swallow up a keg of rice. I think the styling gets back a little to the 916 - 998 styling I loved so much yet is fresh. I found the 999 lines just a bit angular for my taste. The 1098 would be my choice if I wanted a repli-racer. I don't though, so I will be happy with my XB12S.
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Japbikeboy
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The 1098 is worth every penny. I would sell myself for one in a heart beat! The 999 was/is beautiful, but this one is just plain... Gorgeous

(Message edited by japbikeboy on November 15, 2006)
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Surveyor
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a 998r and an XB9r in my garage....I don't see any changes happening in the immediate future
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984gasm
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


ducati hypermotard


Here's the bike going in my garage next
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Teddagreek
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like I might have a good option for next year...

Pay attention Buell.........
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Frankfast
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How can you compare a Ducati to a GSXR? For street use 99% of us would not be able to use the horsepower edge of the GSXR. The Ducati V-Twin is in fact more rider friendly since you can actually feel the motor under you. That's a distinct advantage when riding on the street and is a big reason I own both a Ducati and a Buell. For straight line get a Jap four. Anything else buy a twin. By the way, I think the new tri-color is as beautiful as it gets and rivaled only by the MV in the looks department.
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Frankfast
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Djkaplan - I have one of those and it's still a thrill to get on it a couple times a year. In it's day it was one of the most radical bikes out there. Pure racebike.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I still have the issue of Cycle magazine with "Tales of the California Hotrod", a feature story on Ol' Blue, Cook Neilson's now legendary roundcase 860 SS that he won the Daytona Superbike race on. This was back in the day when a couple of magazine editors could cook up a Ducati based racebike, and whoop the Japanese factories and the top professional racers of the day in the biggest Superbike race of the year. Ducatisti always look to Smart at Imola as the birth of the desmo legend, but I always thought Neilson's win at Daytona was much more significant.

Sorry for the tangent.

"Racebikes don't have speedometers"... good one.
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Frankfast
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I too saved those issues. I used them to help prep my own SS for the track. I still have a T-shirt commemorating that win. There were others making Ducati hot rods in those days like Reno Leoni. He worked for the distributer, Berliner, in New Jersey. I bought my Imola cams, high pipes and alot of other stuff from him. Ah memories!
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Frank and DJ, check out this link:

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2006/Nov/061116o.ht m

DUCATI NORTH AMERICA AND NCR ANNOUNCE "NEW BLUE"

Ducati and NCR team up to recreate Cook Neilson's 1977 Daytona winner

Milan, Italy (November 16, 2006) - Ducati North America and NCR announce today the unveiling of special new project bike called "New Blue". This motorcycle is a modern replica of the historic Ducati 750SS campaigned by Cook Neilson and Phil Schilling throughout the mid 1970's.

Cook Neilson, the editor of Cycle magazine at the time, possessed a unique combination of skills - those of a successful journalist and those of a successful racer. With the help of Managing Editor and ace mechanic Phil Schilling, they were able to build the 750SS into a remarkably successful race bike. This was achieved by trial and error, superior tuning talent and riding skills.

Phil soon gave their motorcycle the nickname "Old Blue", in reference to the team's attractive livery. On March 11th 1977, at the legendary Daytona Speedway, the team celebrated a monumental victory in the AMA Superbike race. This win stands out as a significant event in the history books as it was the first victory for Ducati at Daytona.

To commemorate the 30th anniversary of this historic event, a recreation of this motorcycle was commissioned by Ducati North America and given to NCR.

"New Blue", which began life as a Ducati SportClassic Sport 1000S, was sent to NCR's factory for a cosmetic replication and race preparation. NCR was able to remove an astounding eighty-four pounds of dry weight and add an additional 30 horsepower to the motorcycle. This was achieved by the usage of lightweight materials such as titanium, carbon fiber and magnesium throughout the project. The revised engine output is 116hp at 8450rpm. The motorcycle is completed with a titanium plate bearing the signatures of both Cook Neilson and Phil Schilling.

"This is a very exciting project, and we are looking forward to seeing Cook and Phil together again" said Michael Lock, CEO of Ducati North America. "We inducted both of them into the Ducati North America Hall of Fame at this year's annual Ducati dealer meeting, and now we are honoring the special bike that they built as well. The combination of rider, tuner and motorcycle made a very successful team."

The North American introduction of the motorcycle will take place at Ducati New York on Thursday, January 18th. The motorcycle will be on display at the remainder of the 2007 IMS Motorcycle Shows.

In addition, NCR will be building a limited quantity of these special production motorcycles for the American market.

ENDS
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Frankfast
Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anything touched by NCR will be beautiful------and expensive. I don't know how long Ducati will be able to dip into their history and make machines that will be profitable. This one sounds purely sentimental. It's good to see these two guys get the recognition that they deserve. They built the "California Hot Rod" with very little factory support and won Daytona. That won't happen again.
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