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Bigwallfish
Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Follow this link...
www.ecossemoto.com
it's way too expensive, but totally sweet. I'm going to Vegas in a few weeks & want to stop by their dealership there to see them in person.
Ecosse Bike
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45_degrees
Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah I've seen those. I like the Wakan better... IMO, The fork looks too raked and the wheelbase looks too long. Probably would be fun to ride though!
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love that thing, but when I posted about it last year all it did was generate negative comments. I'm just happy to see custom builders not stamping out cookie cutter driveway jewelry with ridiculously long wheelbases and unridable geometry. The Heretic looks like FUN!
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Firemanjim
Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Saw it at Laguna Seca,looked nice--until I saw the price tag.Definitely smoking crack.
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99buellx1
Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, saw one at Laguna in '05.
It was silver with alot of carbon fiber. nice looking (except for those pipes).
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WHY do they BOTHER with a back seat???
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the trellis swingarm!

Unfortunately that's all that I really like about the bike.
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Tx05xb12s
Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow, 114 cu in with a 6-speed. Sounds like fun.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Once your brain gets dialed in to XB proportions, everything else looks like:



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Tx05xb12s
Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Uhhh...WTF is that supposed to be? Looks like one of those trike conversion shops ran out of parts or something.
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Xbduck
Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Drag bike.
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Swordsman
Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whoa... the Ecosse has practically no frame! Looks like it would have much more flex than... well... any other sport bike I've seen.

For that price, I'd rather have the Bimota Tesi 2D, which was mentioned last month, I think.
http://www.bimota.it/scheda_tesi2d_1_eng.htm

(I've never experienced flex 'cuz I'm a wussy rider, I've just read about it!)

~SM

(Message edited by Swordsman on November 02, 2006)
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Swordsman
Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Quick refresher pic for those that don't want to dig through that last link.





~SM
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've seen one of those things in person. Looks like something constructed by an engineer whacked out on drugs with his son's old erector set and legos. You can't help but wonder what'll happen to the steering when the bearing surfaces on all of those linkages start to wear...
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Perry
Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've seen that bike before - a guy here rides one. Here's a picture of him with some of his tools he uses to adjust the suspension:

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Xbeau12s
Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think it looks pretty cool and very innovative. But - I can't say anything besides that because I haven't ridden one. I wonder how good it corners with that setup. Definitely future looking.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The real advantage is supposed to be not in what it has, but what it lacks....
front end dive under braking loads.

The original Tesi 1d was even raced in WSB.

I'd like to see Buell go towards a Hassock or Britten style front suspension in the next generation.
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Rocketman
Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I too have seen it in the flesh and it looks great.

I also talked to the guy who owned it and was selling it. Didn't speak highly about the handling as it takes a lot of getting use to due to the different behaviour compared to conventional forks.

I can't remember how exactly the fella worded his criticism but I suggested it being a Bimota and the efforts put in by many a top engineer / designer, did it really deserve any?

My answer was, Ron Haslam couldn't get good results with the concept and Elf spent millions trying. I guess the fella knew what he was talking about. What do I know. It looks a million dollars in the flesh.

Rocket
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Snowscum
Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This one looks pretty cool to. Not sure if my knees would hit the heads....



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Rigman
Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Jackbequick
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"..the different behaviour compared to conventional forks..."

If you want to get an inkling of how different it can be, try to find an old BMW with the leading link front end to ride. Or maybe that original Honda Dream? Or a Greeves motocrosser?

Those were all pretty strange at first because the front end did not compress under normal braking loads.

The various implementations on leading link front ends all have a lot more pivot points in them, each pivot point has/will develop a little play, a little play in a lot of places can make for a less than precise and reassuring front end.

Jack
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