| Author | Message | ||
     Multi_bueller |
I just recently purchased an awesome chain drive conversion for my 2004 xb12r from ebay.You guys have got to check this out.I couldn't believe how nice it is.I've seen many chain conversions before but none like this one.It is so clean looking and it appears to be made extremely well.It went on with ease and looks to be very dependable.I will say that this is a must have for the serious Buell enthusiast!!!!!!!!There seems to be a few more available so check them out,you won't be disappointed!!!!!!! | ||
| 99buellx1 |
Wow, could you try to sell it just a bit more!!! I'm soo excited for you!!!! | ||
| Bigdaddy |
Something's bubbling to the top here,,,,,,there it is; "Irrational Exuberance." G2 | ||
| Fullpower |
800 bucks sounds a little high to me. | ||
| Mutation_racer |
If you think thats alot for a chain drive your _uckin nuts. hal's is more then 1300.00 and only comes with one rear sprocket. also your changing your overall length of your bike and for some that think that doesn't change the way your bike handles your nuts . its a good deal and i'll buy one for my street bike were did you get it | ||
| Multi_bueller |
Thanks for being excited for me, it means alot!!!! | ||
| Diablobrian |
Pics? And welcome to "The Chain Gang" here on BadWeB  | ||
| Fullpower |
800 bucks seems a little high to me. | ||
| Diablobrian |
It is more expensive than some of the home brewed set-ups some of the guys have done. Some people do not enjoy turning wrenches or working out just what else they need to do to make something work. This might be just the ticket for someone like that. Kind of like the success of plug-and-play computer parts for those of us that used to set irq and interrupts on the expansion cards  The Hal's kit with the swingarm was around $2500 last time I checked. The newer style XBRR swingarm (arm only) is supposed to be around $1700 IIRC. Not quite so pricey when viewed from that direction eh? FWIW Saintly and or Fullpower on here have assembled a list of the parts needed to build your own chain drive. If you are so inclined. Price is <$200 IIRC but I would suggest using an O/X/WX-ring chain which would drive the price up. This way Fullpower doesn't have to blow his own horn  (Message edited by diablobrian on October 27, 2006) | ||
| Xb9ser |
With O ring chain mine was still under $200 useing saintlys parts  | ||
| Diablobrian |
Sweet! I was just trying to give an alternative view of the pricing. If my bike hadn't come with the Hal's set-up I would have done the Saintly chain conversion myself. Some people do not enjoy getting their hands dirty like you and I do though. | ||
| Yohinan |
I wish I could figure out the search feature on this forum. Out of all the forums I am a part of this is the only one I dont get along with. (Message edited by yohinan on October 28, 2006) | ||
| Bigdaddy |
Multi-Bueller, Are you the seller or are you associated with the seller? G2 | ||
| Xbob |
"With O ring chain mine was still under $200 useing saintlys parts" youve got under $200.00 in doing a chain conversion? can you tell me more? got any pics? thanks | ||
| Nutsnbolt |
seriously... If you did a chain conversion for 200 bucks, I'm IN!! I can wrench, so share the wealth, dude. Give us the hot tip. If it's saintly, how do I reach him. If you say use the search engine, i will flip. I agree, this search engine on here is either way above my head or so simple that I'm over thinking it. Some reason, I feel that both may be the problem. Seriously, give up the info... I'm totally in. Mark | ||
| Spatten1 |
Saintly is very helpful, PM (personal message) him. Just do a search for Saintly, then click on his name and choose the PM option. You can send him an email directly. | ||
| Mikexlr650 |
saintly is definitely stand-up, you won't have any problems with anything he helps you with. half the guy's we ride with are running his set-up. you don't have to spend a fortune to get it right. i think now he gives you two options as well, a sprocket type idler or a smooth type. the guy has an uncanny ability to ferret out simple solutions to things that others make so complex. | ||
| Diablobrian |
Mike, that's the definition of elegance: finding simple solutions to complex problems. That kind of solution is the goal of every engineer and mechanic of any type. | ||
| Xbob |
saintlys post about the chain conversion is in the knowledge vault. anyone else have pics of it on their bikes? (Message edited by xbob on October 28, 2006) | ||
| Thansesxb9rs |
If you go to the Knowledge Vault and look under drive train, etc, etc you will find many different links to the home brewed chain conversion that full power did for cheap or the one saintly did for around $600. If I remember correctly he added the free spirits idler or maybe that was hammer. Either way there are a ton of pics in there with the home brewed setup. Here is a quick run down of what you need, Vortex rear sprocket www.vortex.com, 91 to 92 front sprocket Chain And idler pulley off of some car from an auto parts store. Don't even mess with the search function just go play around in the knowledge vault and get used to it's setup. This is the best way I have found to look up topics and once you start using it it will be a lot easier to find stuff because you will be familiar with it. I mean come on if you don't want to go look for the info why would I go look for it for you and then post a link to the post. | ||
| Xbob |
where on that vortex web site are the sprockets? im not sure thats the right site.. | ||
| Cliff |
http://www.vortexracing.com/ | ||
| Diablobrian |
Fullpower's: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=3842&post=389008#POST389008 Saintly's: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=3842&post=602661#POST602661 Knowledge Vault/Drivetrain/Secondary drive: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/3593.html?1162060941 Those links should get you to enough info and pictures to be able to work it out, or get you into contact with people that can help. | ||
| Ronlv |
i know where you can get; complete freespirits kit(the original) with front sprocket, adjustable idler, chain guide, and one rear sprocket for 695 another kit with one front sprocket, one rear sprocket and adjustable idler for 475 (no chain guide) another kit one front sprocket, cool looking concentric adjustable idler, chain guide, 3 rear sprockets for 829 another kit freespirits one front sprocket, 4 rear sprockets, adjustable idler, chain guide, chain, for 895 and the modified stock tensioner kit someone sells for around 200 or so (i am not real sure on this) they are not all sponsers but it looks like we have alot more options for chains now | ||
| Diablobrian |
I've seen a pic of a concentric idler, but never knew who made it. Who is it that makes them Ron? (not that I need one, just curious)  | ||
| Nutsnbolt |
Here's what I have gathered so far.... Rear Sprocket.....Vortex 530 chain pitch 827 (page 17 on the web site) 51 tooth sprocket. 63.95 You'll need 2 Chevy differential pinion shims for spacers. Check! Front Sprocket.... VTwin 21 Tooth Sprocket #19-0384( i can only assume that it is a Harley part number?) 13.97 Check! Idler Pully....Autozone-Gates #38023 (This is the non tooth pully!! Not toothed cog or sprocket.) 16.78 If you want the cog/sprocket it is Grainger part number #6L962 I'm not sure of the price of this one. Check! Chain... Diamond 530 chain 37.49, Tsubaki X-ring, or RK a lot more expensive, but maybe worth it. Check!! Here's where its a bit fuzzy for me. Adjusting the chain... You can either hone the hole out a bit more on the idler bracket and adjust it that way? Or, you can do as Fullpower has done, and configure it his way. I am still not sure how he did it, but all his takes is a 9/16 wrench and wallah!! you are done. Sounds simple. All for about 134.00-maybe 150.00 total. Amazing. What I think is that there should be another thread devoted to strictly other compatible rear and front sprocket ratios and their output as far as top end or etc.. This is just what I was hoping the badweb would be and could be. People getting together, sharing ideas and simple solutions to complex problems. What a concept. I mean, i like to support our sponsors as much as the next guy, but if you can do it this way or spend 600-2300.00??? The answer is easy, and quite frankly more rewarding knowing that there is ANOTHER WAY!!! So, if anyone can fill in the blanks, I would appreciate it. If Fullpower could put a picture of his way of adjusting the chain, I would really appreciate it. I am more of a picture person than a visualizing person. Rock on. Mark (Message edited by nutsnbolt on October 28, 2006) | ||
| Diablobrian |
Here is a pic of the concentric that RonLV mentioned:  (not the greatest pic, but it is a slick design) I'm sure Fullpower will be glad to put up some recent pics up. Some people have slotted out the tensioner mount to allow adjustment. Most any machinist can do that job in a few minutes. | ||
| Xbob |
maybe a dumb question, but do any of the available kits have a chain adjuster that is 'spring loaded' so you don't have to always be adjusting it to take up the chain slack? and if not, which of the available kits would require the LEAST amount of adjusting. im not afraid of a little maintenance, but i'd like to not have to wrench on my bike everytime i want to take it for a ride. thanks (Message edited by xbob on October 28, 2006) | ||
| Hogs |
Diablobrain, The pipe on that bike IS that a Beson looks same as mine, IS this yours or if not do you know who owns this bike? | ||
| Diablobrian |
No idea who's bike it is, I just thought the chain adjuster was a sweet piece of gear and I decided to snag the pic. I thought that Norris Performance/ KDFab(Drummer) were coming out with a chain adjuster too? |
