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Quartermilegixxer
Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Okay guys, I've currently got a TL 1000 S that I'm getting ready to part out so I can buy another bike. I've really wanted a Buell for 2 or 3 years but always bought what I knew. So what I'm looking for here is advice.I'm more interested in the 9s and the city x, because of price mostly. I'm not gonna risk 10k on a bike I might not like. give me the crash course on XB's. Thanks.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Admitting you don't have an addiction is the first step to allowing us to give you one!

What is your style of riding? Buells are different in that they are not straight line monsters. If you are concerned that some other bike might be able to "blow by you" in a straight line, I wouldn't look here. The performance is spectacular, but it isn't a top end racer.

The cornering feel is unmistakably fantastic. This is what the Buell was designed to do. What is fantastic is that the torque delivery makes running the twisties much less work. My buddy commented that he laughs when he is following me through a run in that "I never shift". He hears the engine spinning up and down, but there is no shifting. 3rd gear is magical. 30-80 in one gear in the fattest part of the torque curve.

Sniggles:

Most Japanese bikes are sewing machines. Complex but reliable. Buells are not sewing machines. Buells are pretty simple. There are not that many moving parts. Which makes them fairly simple to wrench on (and upgrade). I've had a couple of electrical issues that have been ironed out. Some here have had pinging problems with Ulysses'.

If you are interested in the CityX, I would buy a 2nd or third year model rather than a first year model. The first year models seem to have more minor issues than 2nd and third year models.

Test ride one, and your new "crack" addiction will be complete.
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Dtx
Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I will agree with you, the prices of the 984cc models seem a bit more realistic. When (non-Buell) people ask me how much my bike costs, their jaws usually drop when I tell them it was in the $8k range.

However, if I still wanted a 1203cc model...I would still buy it!
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Coming from a Japanese bike, even a twin like the TL, you will take a bit to get used to the lazier feel/sound of the Buell.

The motor never feels like it is working as hard so the speed you are actually running can be deceiving.

Be sure that the suspension is set for your weight. The buells are sensitive to set-up and tires, (use anything but the dunlops)
if these aren't set right the bike will not handle well and will stand up on the brakes. The new 07 Buells come stock with
Pirelli Diablo tires.

Buells tend to be love them or hate them bikes. If you want to drag race, or bench race The Buells do not have the specs you want.

If you want to find the twistiest piece of tarmac in your state and OWN it, you could be looking in the right place. Also
if you love mechanical innovation and owning something completely different from everyone elses bike (unlike gsxr, cbr, etc owners)
then Buell might be right for you.

Finding BadWeB was a great first step. The community is a great one and extremely tight knit. It is by far the best motorcycling
group I've ever been a part of. Plus, the collective knowledge is immense.

I hope that you find that the Buell is the right bike for you and that you stick around, but be warned, these things are addictive.

Diablobrian, founder: Buell Biker Dads with Daughters, and member of the BadWeB Chain Gang.
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No_rice
Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok, so since you have been answered fairly well already, now i want to know what is wrong with the TL, as in, why part it out? i like them, and have a friend that messes with them alot.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tim's circling like a vulture
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Fullpower
Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i think skyguy is still try ing to sell his 9 for around 3000.
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Quartermilegixxer
Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

there's nothing terribly wrong with the TL I can just get more money out of it parting it out than selling it as a whole, sad I know, but true.this was the first twin I've owned ever and I love the torque. I almost bought an X1 in '04 but bought a used Bandit, then I almost bought another one when I found my TL for 2700 so I chanced it with the TL. So now I'm fairly sure I'll like the XB since I've kinda been wanting to go the streetfighter or motard route anyway. I prefer wheelies and stoppies to 165mph top ends now.I'd upload a pic but it tells me it's too big.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After buying a 9, I finally got to ride a 12. Much to my suprise, I liked the 9 better.

Was your TL the street cams, and stock? If so, you probably won't feel much of a difference. The 9sx will have more low end torque but less revs. When I am following my buddy on is VStrom (which I believe is pretty close to the TLS motor) he is slightly faster, but nothing significant.

Now if you had a TLR with the power commander and had that thing wicked up to 115 HP at the wheel, you will be going to a much lower power bike. That will bug some people and be a great relief to others.

Handling and transitions will be a lot more fun on the 9sx, with none of the randomly manifesting twitchyness I have heard sometimes occurs on the TLR.

The redline difference will be the big difference, and the 9 would be less of a change for you.

My experience riding SV's and Stroms has been that the suzuki twins just feel like really nice inline 4's. Buell twins feel like *real* twins. Neither is necessarily better, but it's different, and people generally end up feeling pretty strongly about which camp they were in.

When you think about the 9sx, keep thinking "middle weight sporting twin streetbike". Think "world class handling with really likable engine". Like what the Honda Hawk would have been had it been allowed to evolve without, well, Honda Corporate.

The TL would be closer to "steet legal racebike".

Lots of intangibles here, but enough to get an idea if a 9sx is going to speak to you or not.
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Quartermilegixxer
Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My TL has aftermarket pipes that I've shortened. The pic in my profile is from when I had it lowered and stretched to go dragracing. horsepower really isn't an issue for me, I was considering a motard as well and the ones I was looking at were 35 to 55 hp, but everyone talks about how much fun they are so......
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Quartermilegixxer
Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks for all the responses guys. started taking the TL apart yesterday so hopefully right after Christmas i'll be looking for a 9s.
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Dtx
Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Quarter,

If you want to post a pic that is too big, you can resize it by opening it in MS Paint and use the "Strech/Skew" feature. Shrink it down to 60kb or less. Thats what I do.
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Prof_stack
Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For a small, simple, and FREE photo editor, the best is at http://www.irfanview.com
Extremely powerful and well done software, worth a donation...

Good luck in your hunt for an XB. Best bike I've ever owned (in 40 years of riding).
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Quartermilegixxer
Posted on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

does anyone near Bristol have an xbs that i can come look at. the local harley dealer no longer carries them. anyone within an hour or so.thanks.
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