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Archive through October 30, 2006	Ft_bstrd	30	1	10-30-06 01:48 pm

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Mortarmanmike120

Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 01:55 pm:

I agree. It's a beauty.

"Soldier, why do you have a peace sign and born to kill on your helmet?"

"Sir, I think it represents the duality of man."

Rocketman

Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 02:26 pm:

Too bad it's French.... I wouldn't buy it because of that fact

I labeled you a bigot?

Rocket

Ft_bstrd

Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 02:51 pm:

Rocket,

Do you REALLY need to have the last word EVERY time?

Let's get back to the program at hand!

Snakedriver

Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 04:14 pm:

I like the bike. I dont love it, the design Im referring to. Look at the close ups. The lines of the bike are cool, but it has a kit car texture to it.

Also, did anybody notice the paint? Blue and white stripes-Shelby, and of course my favorite, American International Race (white w/ lt. blue strips) It seems the French love the American angle. I have always thought the Buell should have an AIR paint option. I tried to make a funny but I dont think it worked!

Drift

Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 04:44 pm:

I would definitely ride it. I like French Fries. HA!

Elff

Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 04:59 pm:

It's cool
But my Buell is cooler and cheaper.
: )

My $.05 [inflation]

Toomanytoys

Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 05:50 pm:

Has anyone else watched the video with the WIlly Wanka soundtrack? Cracks me up.

Bike sounds nice though. Beautiful piece of machinery.

Toomanytoys

Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 05:55 pm:

http://www.engmore.com/background.html

I think those are models of Tube Frame Buells on his desk in front of him.

Naustin

Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 06:00 pm:

Begin Rant...

If you have a problem with France or the UN, you've probably been influenced by the "Committee on Domestic Mind Control" - affectionately nicknamed the "Republican Reality-Rapists." If you find yourself inexplicably negative toward the French, check your a$$hole for a blunt object with "Property of the NSA" printed on the shaft.

End rant...

PS) I like the bike. Who needs fuel in the frame when you can get it even lower by putting it there. I bet that bike has a lower CG than an XB. I just wonder about its frame rigidity and where the heck the battery goes...

BRING BACK THE TUBERS

(Message edited by naustin on October 31, 2006)

Adrenaline_junkie

Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 06:04 pm:

I think it is beautiful. I love the exposed engine. Maybe it does look a little "kit-car-ish", but that only adds to the appeal for me. I guess my questions would revolve around cornering performance.

Front forks: 46mm USD, should be excellent.

Backbone Frame: The engine is being solid mounted to act as an integral part of the frame, or at least that is how I perceive it viewing the pictures on their web site. This may or may not be as stiff laterally as the XB's but it will definitely pass a lot more vibration to the rider.

Rear Swingarm: Pretty damn beefy looking, but does not appear to be as stout as the XB swingarm.

Power: Excellent.

Price: Ridiculous.

If I had enough money, I would have one to go WITH my Buell. I suspect, and this is only a guess on my part, that it would be a considerably less refined ride than the Buell.........But some days, less is more.

I like it a lot, but I don't think I would want it as my only bike.

Ft_bstrd

Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 06:22 pm:

Reality Rapists?

Some people think the UN is a good thing too.

Probably vibrates like a rigid if the mounting hangs it from the heads.

Rocketman

Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 07:02 pm:

Fat...............

I cannot respond to your comment as that might seem like me having the last word
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Rocket

Ft_bstrd

Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 08:52 pm:

Thanks.

I'm on the list for information on this bike.

Jackbequick

Posted on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 08:35 am:

"..Backbone Frame: The engine is being solid mounted to act as an integral part of the frame..."

I don't think the engine is "integral" as much as just hanging from it if you look at the photos here:

http://www.engmore.com/design.html

I doubt that the engine is "stressed" it is just along for the ride.

The road models are considerably more cluttered up of course. If you look at this:

http://www.engmore.com/roadmodels.html

note the sort of square "appendages" fore and aft of and almost below the engine. Maybe those house the battery and electrics?

Some specs here in a PDF:

http://www.engmore.com/designfiles/specifications. pdf

Kevlar belt drive on the primary? Is that standard for S&S?

Two into one into two mufflers exhaust system. I hate mufflers that are that visible but what else are you going to do with the noise if you can't do a Buell with it?

Jack

Kdan

Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 03:38 am:

I can't stand Pate, but I love liverwurst, go figure.
Cool bike.
If I had that kind of money though, I'd probably buy a house.
With a Garage.
So I can have somewhere to store my current bikes.
That isn't currently my living/bedroom/den/mediacenter.

Buellman39

Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 06:52 am:

www.confederate.com

Check it out!!

Silverado140

Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 10:51 am:

Buellman -

Those are INSANE!! Never seen them before, but immediately fell in love with the Hellcat.

Joe

Elff

Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 11:06 am:

I love the Hellcat but the other ones are just ugly

Ft_bstrd

Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 11:30 am:

I know we have the battery and ECM to contend with, but I would like a short stubby seat option that is just seat like on the Hellcat. I know we have shortened seat options, but man that would be cool.

45_degrees

Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 11:53 am:

I really like the GM LS7 based engine in the Renovatio, pretty awesome. Though for motorcycles I prefer 45 degree over 90. It's pretty stark... very naked. To me, it looks like a Blade Runner bike (Renovatio). Don't really care for the Hellcat's headlight setup... ugly. But it looks like a cool bike otherwise.

I love the wheels on the Wakan. I wonder if the racing pipe shown on the Wakan is any louder than my O.P.S.. Probably has some sort of baffle in that megaphone tip to quell some of the noise. I would want that over the street mufflers.

(Message edited by 45 degrees on November 01, 2006)

Jayvee

Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 03:41 pm:

The little models on his desk are likely explained by the text that appeared in the paragraphs above:

He had already produced scale models, as far back as 1996, of the minimalist and uncompromising sports bike that he was aiming for, and by March 2003 he was free to devote all his time towards achieving that goal.

Heck, I'd buy one of the scale models, I didn't see if he sells them. That's a nice bike, no matter where it's made.

Bigwallfish

Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 04:55 pm:

I had a chance to see one of the "Confederate" bikes last summer....it is way cooler in person!the entire bike is blacked out with tons of carbon fiber...the seat looked miserably painful though.

Tcskeptic

Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 10:08 pm:

You guys are getting way too on topic.

We need to return this discussion to the evil French and their evil products.

http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=1 2612

Ft_bstrd

Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 09:59 am:

I would allow her to say dirty things about the US in French during..........

Mortarmanmike120

Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 05:10 am:

Tcskeptic: I've changed my mind, THAT I would buy.

Brineusaf

Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 06:03 am:

I new the French had something hidden somewhere..

Rogue_biker

Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 03:03 pm:

I think that it is the ultimate form of flattery for a French company to create the Wakan. It is also a vindication for Buell motorcycles. In a way, both bikes have lots of similarities. The Wakan being the wild, and crazy one that takes the Buell XB to the extreme. I can imagine the founder of Wakan riding a Buell XB and discovering something Erik Buell did years ago: the marriage of a high torque yet simple V-Twin motor in a high tech frame packaged in a very lightweight and agile motorcycle=FUN! Probably would not be anywhere near as practical nor reliable as an XB. But what a blast!