| Author | Message | ||
     Spectrum |
"i was told by a lot of the doctors at the hospital that gear would'nt have helped me even if i was wearing a million dollars worth of protection. My knee was bent pretty far on that peg, and the skin was stretched pretty tight." I'm sorry but I have to call B.S. on you. 1st. There is not a medical professional in the business that would tell you such a thing because they know it constitutes liable when it happens to you the next time. Doctors are very aware of the potential legal issues surrounding what they say and do. 2nd. I've been in martial arts for over 20 years and I've seen first hand what happens when the body is bent to extremes in ways it wasn't meant to. I've seen many brutal injuries and I'm telling you, that kind of tear doesn't happen from bending and stretching the skin to far. That kind of tear only happens when some external object rips the skin, or a compound fracture where the bone fragments tear through the skin. I feel for you and wish you a speedy recovery, but dude you got to wake-up and start taking care of yourself. | ||
| Mattl |
Thanks for the post and everyone's feedback. I was waiting around to find a great deal on some used leather pants to match my vanson jacket, but that is just stupid after reading through this. I will order brand new ones now just to get them ASAP. I commute to work everyday, at 70-80mph on the freeway, and have a wife and four kids to support. WHAT THE HECK WAS I THINKING!?! Quick questions... Anyone tried the XRUJ jacket and XRUP pants? Anyone know of some good quality riding boots? Preferably black or dark brown, mostly leather, made in USA? I've been wearing my wolverine work boots, but I've had the laces get snagged in my shift lever a couple times. | ||
| Henrik |
Kirk - I was an ER doc for years and have seen, treated and received my share of injuries. What your doctors told you is BS. It sounds very much like you're trying to justify your own failing to learn from your previous experience. Not a good idea. The rest has been said already. Here's a place to start Henrik | ||
| Isham |
Spec is right. You're lying about that Dr. Matt not a good time to jack this thread. I know it's not right to kick someone when they are down but you deserve it, this whole thing is sad that you didn't learn your lesson the first time. | ||
| Lost_in_ohio |
Matti I commute every day on my bike in heavy traffic......I cannot afford a vanson jacket but I do have Joe Rocket armour pants and jacket, I alway wear gloves and a shoei helmet. I for got SIDI Vertigo boots. IMHO your leather will only help with abrasions....you need armour to help prevent broken/open compound fractures...... I havent tested mine and hope I never will....but I will have it on when it happens. I love my bike but I am responsible to provide for my family too. HMMM a twice wrecked 12R for 8500......hmmm. I hope your father steps in and has a talk with you. You keep it up you won't see 25 and besides your screwing up my insurance rates. Do us all a favor and sell the bike and buy a nice Ford Focus. | ||
| Juniorkirk |
i know i should wear more protective gear when im riding. The first accident was because of everything was against me that morning, raining, cold, tired. I was riding safer than safe that morning, and i still went down. maybe it was my dad saying that about my knee, i was in and out of it the entire time, not to mention the drugs they had me on didnt help me remember that much. the only thing i can really remember was the wreck, getting taken to the hospital, doctors asking me a lot of questions, and then sending me to another hospital, after than they pumped more morphine and this other stuff that i forget the name of in me to kill the pain. The first 2 days after it i felt like crap the entire time, the pills they have me on make me extremely drowsy/dizzy. If i do plan to get back on that bike, i have to get gear, by order of my dad. if i dont get gear, i dont get to live here, so i think its a fair trade. | ||
| Ulywife |
if i dont get gear, i dont get to live here, so i think its a fair trade My daughter is only 11 and has as much gear as her Dad. She has boots, gloves, full faced helmet, mesh armor jacket, leather Icon armor jacket and Joe Rocket armor textile pants. It's expensive, but cheaper than your ER visit. I hope you feel better soon and realize that almost everyone here is a big proponent of ATGATT - doesn't matter how short the ride, how hot the day - you gotta wear your gear! | ||
| Irideabuell |
Hey Ohio, I have a Ford Focus!!!! | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Now that you have some down time on your hands you should read Total Control. I think some of, if not all of, the info will help any rider that reads it....You might want to read it twice...Total Control by Lee Parks...I just looked at those pics again...time for PIZZA  | ||
| Teddagreek |
Seriously your in a pattern. Just like a woman who keeps finding her self in abusive relationships over and over again.. Break the Cycle... Now that you have some time Take some time think about your riding,gear,style etc... Some really good books out there.. Take care of that wound and very careful I have a big cut similar on my hand that wraps around towards my wrist.. 4 months after the stitches came out It busted open when I was wrenching on my car... | ||
| Diablobrian |
Ouch, that is a hard re-inforcement of the previous injury. I am constantly preaching to people about the virtues of ATGATT (All The Gear All The Time) You are a young man and you do not want to find yourself trapped in the body of an OLD man before you even hit 30. You have to trust me on this. I wear the gear and an errant car driver arranged it so that I'll be walking with a cane for the rest of my life. I was only 34 when that happened. The story: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=32777&post=739319#POS T739319 You might want to check out that whole thread in addition to Henrik's | ||
| Brupska |
I agree with Ulywife and Wolf... My son is 10 and he has full MX gear for riding his pitbike. I have also read total control before I ever went to a track day. The book helped me so much with understanding what I was getting into before I got in over my head. You can go to newenough.com and find a 2 or 3 year old model leather like I did for a very good deal. I think I paid about $500 for all of my gear except for my helmet. I think I have a very high priced head so I got a very high priced helmet to match. LOL | ||
| Blake |
"The first accident was because of everything was against me that morning, raining, cold, tired. I was riding safer than safe that morning, and i still went down." Please step back and re-read your statement above. You are the only one on the road who will be looking out for you. "Everything was against (you)"?!?!?!? Hint: That will hold true in your adult life in a LOT of scenarios. Protect yourself! | ||
| Rocketman |
Yeah, wear a condom! Rocket | ||
| Skyguy |
Blake beat me to it. Riding tired in the rain and cold is a huge mistake in the first place. It is not an example of riding safer than safe. Everyone on this board has said all that can be said. So that being said, I wish you a speedy recovery. | ||
| Lost_in_ohio |
Now now....nothing wrong with a Focus. Just that is is safer to ride than a motorcycle. The likely hood of falling off in the rain is much less. And opps when wheeling is very unlikely. Just out of curiousity how fast were you going when you opps'd your wheelie? IMHO That is not a 20 mph roadrash. I second the BS on the Hosptial personnel on the gear call. They have no clue as to how you hit. I don't know of any medical professional that would say that. I am also surprised they even let you take pictures of it in the ER. Since your Hell bent on riding please take a motorcycle safety course and start at the beginner level. As a guy at the age where I am now starting to pay for all of my injurys during the follys of my youth. Don't tear it up too bad you will regret it. Listen to me or not. I am speaking from experience. | ||
| Diablobrian |
unless you drive like this guy, then you can fall off..  But at least he has his gear on if he does (even if the jacket is lacking in the armor dept.)  | ||
| Lost_in_ohio |
Who knew????? | ||
| Crusty |
You know; one definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing over and over; and each time expecting different results. If you always do what you've always done; you'll always get what you've always got. | ||
| Stevasaurus |
I am just happy this thread went to a second page so I didn't have to see that first picture every time I clicked back in. YIKES! Looking at those injuries makes me want to buy better gear even though I always wear what I've got. | ||
| Sub65chris |
just a question , does anyone know of better knee protection ? i have the icon field armor shin\knee protectors . other than that  | ||
| Eboos |
More and more, I have been wearing my Dainese P103 pants (track day style pants). I do not have a Dainese jacket to zip up to yet, but I am working on changing that. Granted these pants (and the Sidi boots) are rather impractical if your plan is to go from point A to B without a change of clothes. I would say that 85% of my seat time this year has been going from point A to A. The rest of the time, impractical as it may be, hopefully some other rider will see me in my gear and start asking good questions. | ||
| Lost_in_ohio |
Eboos....I find the Sidi boots very comfortable. Now running around the mall you do get some stares but who cares. My biggest complaint is that the pants (nonmess Joe Rocket) hold way too much water vapor and are very hot when off the motorcycle. I know they are not meant for this so my complaint is irrelevant.....I wonder if some goretex panels would help....but again how abrasion resistant is goretex | ||
| Eboos |
LIO, The Sidi boots are wicked comfortable. My Vertigo Corsas are crash tested, mother approved. As far as getting some stares, great, I hope they do stare and do some thinking. When I am out for the day, just to ride, I often wear my one piece suit. I probably look like a dork or a poseur, but oh well. I probably would look worse covered in bandages. The one thing that I know that I should be wearing more often is my back protector. Not to make light of his situation, but I think Diablobrian is a clear example of why this is important. | ||
| Diablobrian |
My spine protector saved my life. The sciatic nerve got severed by the damage to my pelvis. The nerve apparently passes through the bone. Anyway, I don't mind being used as an example! I really wish more people would wear full proper gear when riding! I can handle being called a "power ranger". If that kind of thing bothers you I think your self confidence could use some bolstering. I love my Sidi vertigos. They are rigid enough that I don't need to wear my AFO (leg brace) with them and they are perfectly comfortable on my right foot. My brother Diablomichael races in the sidi vertebra 2 boots I was wearing during the crash. How about that for durability? | ||
| Eboos |
"Power Ranger" LOL I haven't heard that before. | ||
| Firebolteric_ma |
POWER RANGERS UNITE!  GEAR saved my azz in NY not to long ago. only part that got hurt was my foot which had regular boots on it. the rest of me was fine, thanks to some gear I bought Recently. some learn through others misfortune, OTHERS need to learn on there own the HARD WAY. | ||
| Elff |
I thought that was the definition of stupidity Anywho Gear helps, I dont always practice what I preach Hope you get well soon | ||
| Buellgirlie |
yeowch. and yuck. could someone please make the graphic pic in red font in bold or more descriptive - i didnt quite expect to see what i did..... anyway, adjust your riding style, get gear, take lessons, etc. you are RIDING OVER YOUR HEAD. you cant keep doing that to yourself. you're young and heal well now...but that doesnt last forever. what's going on with your insurance rates too???? and your family's emotions and mental state about you being hurt? i've crashed pretty hard on the racetrack and been saved by my leathers, helmet, gloves, boots, etc. on the street, i'm "mostly" good, but dont always suit up - but after the track, i'm much much much less aggressive on the street (though i still cant account for other people's actions!) regardless, (knock on wood), i've only crashed on the track and never on the road. gear works. plain and simple. we'd all be better off if we were smarter and wore it all the time. heal well, D | ||
| Isham |
I see more and more people riding without gear. Whats going on here? Lots of men letting women ride 2 up with heels and tank tops and shorts. It's just sad... Hey I own a focus too. |
