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Putmanadm
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I really love my buell, every time I get on it I get a perma-grin. However, I lust daily over the new yzf r6 that parks in the same parking lot as me at work.
I'm 22 yrs old so I have the young/dumb need for speed and horspower that most younger riders do and I cannot afford to have both right now.
I guess my question is has anybody ever gone from a buell to an I4, and regretted it?
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Pupu
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i would think you would regret it, because you want both. they are different bikes. but we always regret what we get rid of, even though we like what we got.

you wont regret it when you want to go 150+

but you will regret it when you see 3 or 4 more just like it everyday, and it is more or less the same as every other inline 600 from any manufacture.

i think people buy buells to be a little different, like being the redheaded stepchild. it sounds different, acts different and looks different than anything else.

i went from an inline 4 to a buell and i dont regret it one bit. but i also dont feel the need to go fast, i rarely go faster than 100, and if i do it is very brief. the novelty of the speed wears off after a while i think. it all depends on what you want right now. no one can make that decision but you.
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Chevroletss1965
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree with Pupu, I ride a buell to be different, everybody has a rice rocket. I'm all about the american made. My opinion is stay with the buell until you can afford to have both. Good Luck...
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Putmanadm
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah, the grass is always greener. I want the I4 for the killer horspower that my buell lacks.
but if i sell it Im gonna miss the standout factor of the buellness
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The grass is always greener...

Aside from a straight line the capabilities of a motorcycle are much more based on the rider than the bike.

I think you'd have a perma grin for the first couple weeks/months on the R6 but it would fade most likely. Don't get me wrong... I have a hankering for a Triumph 675 and I'd love to get one... I'm just waiting to see what Buell comes up with for '08. If it's not a "LE" edition with upgraded suspension and engine I'll get a triumph. I'll keep the XB though for sure. I don't think I'll ever get rid of it for anything but another Buell and even then I'm pretty certain I'll keep it.
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Buellerx
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Only In-Line I Would Consider Ditching My Buell For Is The Triumph 675. It Has Looks, Speed And Handling You Can Keep The Cookie Cutter Jap 600 I-4's. Been There Done That.

Foot Note: If I Could Ever Afford A Yamaha R-1LE, That Would Be on My List Also.
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Xbbeebob
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Have you ridden the R6 yet?
I drove a friends and was not happy with riding it.
And he was tickled pink riding my xb
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Dmextreme
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have both, a GSXR 750 and a CityX. I love both. But right now I am torn, cause 1 of them must go. I don't know which one to lose, cause they are the best of both worlds. Low end torque versus High End Horsepower. So, one thing I do know which sucks.. is that I won't get what I want for my Buell where as I will with the Suzuki.
We went on a few Honda rides. I was max revvin my RPM's the whole time with all the I4's, but it was fun. It's a hard decision. As far as I know, I love my Buell, and if I decide to let it go, will be the hardest thing to do, it's like getting a divorce.

G/L
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Thespive
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You will regret it. You already have one of the most distinctive and unique bikes on the road, and you want to trade it for something everyone and thier best friend has? Plus, you are probably so used to the buells powerband, you may regret going to a hi-revving motor. Remember, the Buell is one of the best real-worldstreet bikes around. notice I said street and not track. The chassis responsiveness and torque add up to an entertaining package package one can live with day in and day out. I wouldn't trade my City for anything.

--Sean
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Ebuella_virus
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I totally agree with all the Buellers here. I still have the Japanese I-4 in the garage that I was riding up until a couple of months ago when I got my 12R. Yeah, it's got speed and horses that'll shame the 12R in those areas, but for a head turner, it's the Firebolt hands down. The innovation, uniqueness, and usable power for the "real" world are what makes me choose the Buell every time I leave the garage. I'm still trying to sell the Japanese bike, but there are so many out there that I can't get rid of it (at least for what I want it for).

Also, any monkey can twist the throttle and go fast down a freeway, but it's in the twisties where riders are challenged to learn skill and finesse which make any rider feel great because he/she has has improved. It is here where the Buell reigns supreme.

Good Luck
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Vonsliek
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 04:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

screw all that.

if u want the r6 .. u BETTER head for the smoothest track u can find & learn to ride the like its meant to be ridden - which may take some time - but WHAT a project!

i have the xb12r from 05 w/ racekit - its been a nightmare of issues & 3 crashes .. & more issues .. BUT me if it ain't a grin a second ride.

i cannot justify street riding on it anymore .. the track hath corrupted me & i cannot enjoy dilly-dallying on the highway.

even at 90 miles per hour its too slow ..

that is: on the track u get to WRING yr bike's neck & punish it like a 2 bit .. perfect!

all the i-4's are better track bikes for racing detail.

a buell on track tho can definitely tear it up .. just can't hold on on a 1/2 mile straight.

if i like the rtorque of the buell but HAVE to have an i-4 .. consider a gsxr1000, coz bang for buck, it cleans up & has similar torque .. but dude.

don't crash it being a damn hero .. its inevitable.

i want a gsxr1000 for racing, but its a LOT of bike.

paul.
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12r
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 06:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The new R6 has received a mixed reception from the sportsbike-mental UK press. Normally they'd go apesh*t over it but the general consensus is that although it's an awesome trackday weapon, the R6 is just too peaky to enjoy on the road. Personally I'd love one, but not as my only bike.
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Nutsnbolt
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 07:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is my 4th motorcycle, going from Yamaha, to MZ to Ducati and now to Buell. Let me tell you this:
The only thing you're really going to regret is getting an R6 and not an R1 or anything bigger than a 6 or 750. That is the real regret most bikers have.
It's the "starter bike" scenario. "I'll get an 750, that's more than enough power for me..." Problem is, you get used to the 750 in about 4 weeks and realize you can handle more and could do more with that R1 or GSXR1000 or Hayabusa or 998. Once you get the bug for ridin' you're never happy.
Look at all the Bueller's out here. There are very few of them that keep it stock cause stock is awesome. No, they are always trying to squeeze more horsepower and funk out of their bikes and that's the way it should be, I'm one of them.
That being said, I've been on all ends of the spectrum and other than the fact that i have to contend with the HD dealership when i need something. (Consider calling Dave in Appleton, it's worth it) the Buell has been one of the best bikes I've owned, hands down. Does it beat the Ducati 100% in pride of ownership? Partly, not all.
But, I say just do it, you're already wondering as it is, so you have the fever. Just buy it, just don't sell yourself short on horsepower. Spend the extra money and get the 900 or better (R1, 1000, Busa, Bandit 1200) You're 22, and most of us Buell guys would give our left wingnut to be 22 again. We would do the same thing. None of us were such forward thinkers to settle. Enjoy, and the keep the rubber on the road.

Mark
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Curtyd
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 07:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I want the I4 for the killer horspower that my buell lacks. "

YEAH, great HP figures from 10K RPM to 16.54K redline, how long do you expect to keep a DL if you tap into that HP very often? Don't get me wrong, I toured on ZX-7's cross country, they are fun too. I just agree that BUELLS have the perfect in-town motor, it pulls where I need it, stoplight to stoplight. Amazing really.
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Dago
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have both: the new r6 and a 12r.

R6 = Track.

XB = Street.

It's simple really. But you're gonna do what you're gonna do.

My advice is to take your Buell to a few track days. That way you'll learn what an idiot you were trying to ride so fast on the street; always looking for that sweet buffer zone between you and the car ahead, just before that turn you think you know so well.

Your Buell is a very potent track weapon. But I personally found my laps times to plummet on a purpose built track machine (which you can get for ~$3-4k if you really want one). You'll find a way to afford two if the bug bites you hard enough.
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Teeps
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been riding motorcycles since 1964. I've owned 30 bikes in that time. The Buell is my latest.
Two things I have learned:
1. There is no one perfect bike.
2. Bikes are a lot like guns; you can never have too many.
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Road_thing
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What Teeps said!

rt
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Aldaytona
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Teeps, that's right on the money. I bought my first new bike in '65, a 305 SuperHawk with 90S tank badges to fool the cops (Florida -10 HP law at the time for a restricted permit). I have owned many bikes and still have a few now because like you, I know one bike can't do it all. Instead of trying to make my XB12R with a Yamakawahonzuki XXX1300, I'll spend that otherwise wasted mod money on the I4 of my choice and have both.
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Macbuell
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll reiterate what a lot of already said here. If I were to trade my 12R in for a racer rep, I'd pick the Triumph Daytona 675. It has gotten incredible reviews and just won motorcycle of the year. It's got that Triumph I-3 engine that sounds great, produces a good amount of torque and more than enough power. It is also a beautiful motorcycle.
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Ibanezgto
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

forget the r6 buy an r1
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Dano_12s
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What Teeps said above. Every bike is a compromise. Buy what you want,if its not right sell it...It's a vicious cycle.Good luck.
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Jaimec
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Triumph 675 is NOT an I4, it is an I3.
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Eboos
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Watercooled twin for me. The right power level, more torque, and a more street friendly power band. If I were to go with an inline bike, it would be the Triumph 675.
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Spatten1
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I was in my 20's I thought Buells were pretty stupid. I definitely wanted decent power back then, so I'd never try to talk you out of it.

The r6, however, will be a frustrating street ride, not as satisfying as the Buell. Much better at the track though.

If you want a bike that makes power get one of the other 600's , a 750, or a 1000 IL4. They are awesome, if you have the need for speed.
You will not get the same satisfying feel from the engine that the Buell produces, but you will go much faster. It is definitely a tradeoff.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would love to have a Daytona 675 as my second bike. One of the yellowish gold ones that no one seems to like except me

Nothing shall ever replace my 12S though. It is the most versatile street machine I've ever had the privilege of riding and I would regret it irreparably if I were to get rid of her.
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Isham
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I do like the Daytona also...

I'll just say one thing which is. If your considering dumping the buell for an I4, do it. I wouldn't ever dream of getting rid of my bike. I will ride it till it blows. If you doubt the buell over another bike your passion for it is not strong enough to keep it.
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Spatten1
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the yellow 675 too.
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Buellfirebolt31
Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm 17 and wouldn't give my 12R up for anything but maybe a brand new R-1000LE. But everyone is like "why didn't you get a gsxr or yahmakahumi?" Because anyone can go fast in a striaght line on the right bike. They can't go twisted tho. And plus i walk alot of liters from light to light...Then i look at them and say. Thats why i got this bike.
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Vonsliek
Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 02:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ugh .. after reading this thread last night - i went to bed & dreamt of riding a gsxr1000 on the track .. its was sweet.

they are the cheapest & MOST racer oriented .. i often wonder of the wisdom of a 600 for track, as the liters have all the torque the buells 12's have.

now i am in trouble again! ;)
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Bonjoxb12s
Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

22 and want an I-4.......Have fun posting the 2k+ a year for insurance. After you make that initial payment, you'll be wanting the buell back.........
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