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Xb12s_streetdemon
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

NO, I JUST LIKE TO BE HEARD!
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Tiburondriver47
Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've heard Spidey's bike and it isn't really that bad unless he gets on it. Then it does sound off. I like it and i have to say i don't like most straight pipes on some of the big hogs.
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Old_man
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm sure that a muffler than can be heard would be no problem to anyone.
I was gassing up yesterday and 2 Harley cruisers with apparent open pipes rode down the street and into the station. It was painful to my ears over 200 feet away.There is no excuse for this disrespect for the rest of the world that these two idiots displayed.
I'm sure they think they are COOL but to the rest of the world they're just a--holes
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Kootenay
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 01:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, I prefer a quiet bike. I have reasons; where I live, in the country, there is little traffic. It's generally pretty quiet. You can hear bikes coming from a ways away--loud bikes from a long way away.

I've been stopped for speeding, and the cops have told me that they get a lot of complaints about bikes, so they've stepped up patrols on these narrow, twisty country roads I like to play on. I strongly suspect that people calling in to complain about "those damn motorsikkles" are much more likely to be complaining about loud bikes than they are about fast ones. A fast but quiet bike zips past, they probably don't even know it went by. But a loud bike--that one they'll see, and that's the one they'll complain about.

Traffic ain't my worry. And deer--well, I live in an area with "extreme" deer, and I can tell you, deer are very dim. They're as likely to jump at you as run away--and the loudness of your exhaust won't make any difference, if anything I think it'll startle them even more (which means the ones which normally would just stand on the side of the highway and watch you go past, may now be startled into jumping into your path...).

Anyway, all I can say is, keep your loud pipes, but please don't run 'em in my area because the complaints YOU cause end up costing ME, in terms of increased police presence, which reduces my riding enjoyment...
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Heads
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Grimel,nope they are screwed up loud pipes lil dicks i dont think that is fact.....
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Vonsliek
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 02:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i saw chips race after 2006 r6 stock rider in cali last time i was there - us motogp -
i had factory race muffler (&kit) ...NO, interest, even when i was speeding .. wonder why, as the r6 rider had just turned a corner & was doing no more than 25 ... it DOES wail!

i think TONE os the most important feature .. engineers spend countless hours refining OEM exhausts & INTAKE (AIRBOX) for acoustic resonance qualities & then WE retards - so heavily schooled in whatever is is we are so schooled int - think we can out-smart them w/ duct tape & wire wool.

i think sound waves - like in music - offer the TRUE solution to whether loud pipes save lives.

from my recent experience - keeping *cool* when idiots are trying to kill you - saves MY life!!

i hate the bastards, but am seeing the benefit in NOT engaging them!

think WAR AGAINST TERRORISM!!

JUST DO IT!
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's a reason we put the guys in our club with loud pipes at the END of our formations... we don't hear them when we're in front of them. When you get stuck BEHIND these clowns, it is downright annoying (plus, their emissions STINK). Don't tell me people in front can hear you coming. That's only true if there's something BEHIND the jackass with the loud pipe reflecting the sound forward, otherwise you don't hear 'em until they're right next to you or in front. The only time I hear loud bikes when they're behind me is in tunnels or in canyons. On the open road, you don't hear them until they're in front of you.
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Brucelee
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have been riding for 35 years and consider myself a libertarian. Having said that, I am in favor of jailing these Aholes with straight pipes.

Talk about putting a nail in the coffin of cycling, these guys are doing it one bike at a time.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Annual safety and/or emission inspections are going to take some of the fun out of it for people that change to aftermarket mufflers.

My FXD has a Screaming Eagle 16 Guage Shotgun system on it that is marked "Not Legal for Road Use". And next year it may keep me from passing the Maine annual inspection.

This system (with unmodified baffles in place) was way too loud for me, I added aftermarket baffles that dropped the noise levels about 50 percent or so.

I think H-D has discontinued the sales of exhaust systems that are not street legal.

Jack
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Kowpow225
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the sound of a 'tuned' exhaust system on a nice bike, car or truck for that matter. However, there is a fine line separating blaring from tuned. Even on the tuned side of it, many of my riding buddies have told me that they can hear me running up on them well before I actually make the pass. Then again that could be the intake honk from the open airbox. : ) The point is, ANY aftermarket exhaust system/slipon/pipe etc emits more noise than stock. Some are bigger offenders.
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Old_man
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the sound of the Harley engine, I think, most people do.
The quality of this sound is what everyone seems to like.
I think a muffler that preserves this tone is good and most non-riders would have no problem with it.
But the excess volume of some exhausts, that cause discomfort or not to be able to hear a conversation will only cause regulations that end up hurting all of us.

(Message edited by old man on August 20, 2006)
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Exactly. Good music is good music, no matter at WHAT volume it is played.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is a reason they are called "drag pipes" because that is where they are designed to work,wide open throttle, high rpm use.Down low they will fall on their face due to reversion. I had a stepped,tuned set on my Bonneville Buell the first year and the "hole" in the dyno chart was amazing. Fortunately I only had to drive through it once as I was using the pipes as they were intended--full throttle high rpm use.
A well tuned ,large volume muffler will always work better. Look at the XBRR's muffler.It is super quiet and makes plenty of HP.
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Grimel
Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

People in front of you can hear your pipe cause unless you are going over 340.29m/s at sealevel and at 20 degrees Centigrade

Provided they have bad sound proofing in their car and they have the radio down/off and they aren't talking to a passenger/on a cell phone AND there is minimal traffic.


(Message edited by grimel on August 21, 2006)
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