| Author | Message | ||
     Fl_a1a |
What is the best method to do a sharp u-turn. I've heard: -put all your weight on the outside peg. -no weight on seat ( weight on pegs gives a lower center of gravity) -Keep the revs high since the flywheel will give you gyroscopic affect and keep you upright. -keep you back break slightly on. -turn you head around to initiate the turn. Should weight be on inside our outside handle bar? Thoughts/Advice? | ||
| Angelwild327 |
ask a cop..or motorman http://www.ridelikeapro.com/UTurn.htm he teaches a class here in Florida...check out his site! | ||
| Tank_bueller |
What is the best method to do a sharp u-turn. Practice! No, really, you can never be "too good". p.s. good site Angel! (Message edited by tank_bueller on August 13, 2006) | ||
| Starter |
Meter your speed using the rear brake, use a few revs & clutch slip and look where you want to be. In the state I live in over here at Aust, we have to be able to do a U-turn inside a box which represents the standard width road lane to get our provisional license. It looks impossible at the start of the day but by the time they teach you a few things it is a breeze, assuming you haven't ridden & opted to do the course on the latest rice burner race replica cause physically they can't do it due to steering head turn. 250cc race replicas are the biggest cause of failures. | ||
| Buellfirebolt31 |
Do a stoppie and flip the back wheel all the way around, then slip the clutch into a wheelie.....never done it but it sounds good and looks good. | ||
| Frequency |
180 stoppie  | ||
| Kdan |
Lock the back wheel and a hip flick, supermoto style. | ||
| Adamcooney |
Get off it and push it?  | ||
| Kootenay |
Practice! Ride your rear brake, slip the clutch, and look where you want to go, NOT at the ground. Buell XB's don't U-turn as well as many other bikes, due to the steering lock (front wheel doesn't physically turn as far as many other bikes)--I can ride my old UJM in much tighter circles, U-turns, and figure 8s than my Firebolt. | ||
| Drfuyutsuki |
I can make the 24x70 u-turn box for MSF courses alright on my 12Ss, still shooting for the 20' line. Press on the side handle bar intiating and holding the lean angle of the bike. | ||
| Roc |
Look where you want to go, head and eyes. If doing a 180 look as close to where you want to go as you can. At low speed I use, and Team Oregon teaches, friction zone to control speed. I also drag the rear brake. | ||
| Midknyte |
I still can't do one as well as I want to, but I've found it easier if I remember to loosen up and stick my knees out so I am not gripping the tank. Allows the bike to do what in needs to do underneath you... | ||
| Microchop |
Move your butt off the seat, in the opposite direction of your U-turn, to counterweight the bike to offset the loss of the gyro effect of the wheels. U-turning left? Your butt should be off the bike to the right. This is what the MSF course teaches, and it works. | ||
| Davegess |
Move your butt off the seat Absolutly the way to go. I have seen an MSF instructer turn a Kawa concours in about an 8 foot circle doing this. | ||
| Edonis |
Counterweight. During the breaks while I'm teaching an MSF BRC I'll go out and practice such things. I love to do a u-turn so sharp on my 9S that I'm actually sitting on the frame of the motorcycle while the left peg is scraping the ground. I end up doing circles that get so tight I have no more ground clearance at that point. Its about clutch control and changing where you're weight is centered. I've got a friend who teaches in Georgia whom can do it on his Goldwing 1800. He does it in the smaller box reserved for Buell Blasts, not the bigger box reserved for bigger bikes in the ERC. Here are a few steps: -Always look UP, and where you want to be. Look over your shoulder. This is absolutley crucial. -Shift your weight to the opposite side of the motorcycle that you want to go. The more you shift, the tighter you can go. However, be realitic about it. Don't hang off like a monkey. -A car loses speed when it turns, this is the same principle. You MUST use the friction zone and maintain some REVS to maintain the momentum of the motorcycle as it turns. -Practice! Set up some cones and continue to make the space smaller and smaller as you master certain distances. I've had some of the most fun on my bike on a sectioned off MSF range. As mentioned it is harder on the XB series due to the limited turning radius. Even I was surprised at first and had to work at it. Hope this helps, anymore questions-shoot them my way. (Message edited by edonis on August 14, 2006) | ||
| Chadhargis |
I've been teaching MSF courses for 4 years, and I can do the 20' box on my Ulysses. It takes a LOT of counterweight, clutch slipping, and some rear brake, but it can be done. Now, my Goldwing is a bigger challenge. I've seen another instructor do it, but I've not managed it yet. | ||
| Grimel |
Stop, get off bike, pick up bike, about face, set bike down, get on and ride | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Davegess, I was at a Concours rally about 2 weeks ago and saw a friend of mine (MSF Instructor) do the 8-foot circle deal on his Kawi Concours. Way impressive on a bike like that. | ||
| Fl_a1a |
Hearing it described by different members helps alot...thanks for the advice. |
