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The_new_guy
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hello everyone. I have a little dilema. I put a race ecm on my bike and will be installing my exhaust on Friday. I just called my dealer to set up an appointment to get the tps reset on Saturday but they cant do it until Tuesday. They said it was a lengthy process too. It doesn't take that long, does it? I heard somewhere that a Harley dealer can rest my tps. Is that true? I think they call it "flashing the ecm".

Thanks,

Gregg
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It can be a lengthy process. Any thing can if you con't know what you are doing.

If they do know what they are doing, it is about a 15 minute job. Asking any old Harley dealer to do it is not something I could recommend.

One thing to watch for, is that after a reset, the throttle will often "hang" that is, it will not return to idle as promptly as one would expect. This is either a symptom of the fact the TPS was improperly done, but more likely the idle adjustment screw needs to be turned just bit. Lowering the idle 50 or 100 rpm will often get rid of the "hang".

In the mean while, if your bike does not run well on the race ECM, I would reinstall the stock one, and change over to the race ecm in the dealers parking lot: the traditional way of doing it.
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Rhun
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ironically, I just made an appointment with my HD buell dealer for this Saturday. Just installed a race kit. They said about 30 minutes or less to reset. I'm going to have the fairing removed so they can get to the computer plug quicker. (hoping for a 15 minute service bill). Per service manual. connect digital technician , back out idle screw until 0 push reset button turn throttle stop set screw back until 5.2 to 5.6 on dig tech start bike, let warm up set idle to 1050.
This doesn't strike me as a lengthy process. I think I would include the service manual page with my work order. Or on May 03, 2006 I think someone posted it on XB or KV
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Problem is they usually don't let the bike get REALLY warm, hence the need to reset the idle screw after you have ridden it and gotten hot.

Otherwise you sound good to go. There are a couple of fine points in the TPS reset, perhaps someone who has actually done a reset could list them.

Good luck.
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The_new_guy
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks guys, I think I am going to order the software and do it myself. At least if it take me a long time, I'll have learned something. Isn't there a database around here with a list of names of bad webbers that have the diagnostic software? I'll be sure and let everyone know if I get the TPS reset software. I don't think there is anyone that has it up near me. Waaaaaaay upstate New York!

Gregg
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Hammer71
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Guy where the hell is colton? Orange County here, near Bear Mtn. would hook you up in a second. if we could work out a spot to meet up we could change it up and reset it.
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The_new_guy
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 07:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Colton is about 45 minutes from Canada. About 5 hours away? Thanks anyway. I would like to ride down that way sometime though. I have a few friends down that way. I lived in Beacon for 5 years. I wouldn't want to ride on that side of the river though. Too much traffic.

Gregg

Gregg
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Marty12s
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my suggestion is to ride down to him, do the tps, hang out for a min, and clock at least 100 miles in the bear mtn. area. (what a place to ride. nothing but smooth paved twisties everywhere.)
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The_new_guy
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, the micron is going on tonight! I can't wait. I installed the race ecm and got my lower airbox cover ready for the open airbox kit. I removed the stock muffler yesterday. Everything has gone very easy so far. Tonight I will rotate the engine. I got the TPS reset software in the mail today. Thanks American Sport Bike. Anyway, if anyone needs a TPS reset and feels like coming to Potsdam, NY, I'm ready to help. Hopefully my TPS reset goes well.

Gregg
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The_new_guy
Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HELP!! I am trying to reset my TPS and can't get my computer to connect to the ecm. I have tried both the usb adapter and serial port. Any ideas?

Thanks

Gregg
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Tork
Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What exactly are your symptoms? Zero indication of connectivity? If so, check to make sure you've got the software configured for the correct serial port number on your computer. Try cycling through the various COM ports in the software.

Make sure you follow the VDSTS manual exactly when firing everything up, especially about needing the ignition 'on' and the run switch in 'run'.

Come back and let us know if you get any joy.
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Josh_cox
Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As per why the throttle seems to come down slowly: The person doing the reset did not back out the throttle adjuster until the butterfly was completely closed before doing the reset. It is probably hanging open just a hair. Also, the only reason a reset takes anymore than 5 minutes is because it takes several minutes for the bike to warm up to 320 degrees before doing it. Harleys are considered full temp at 260, but the temp sensor is in a different location. Buell's should be at 320 for full temp.

The_new_guy:
I would not recommend running the race ECM with the Micron system. At WOT it is ok, but during cruising, the AFV does not compensate well enough for that pipe. You will be running 15-17:1 (read will run extremely hot and ping). You should have your bike dyno tuned with Direct Link if at all possible. If you can't get to a good tuner, I think both Al and Daves have pre-made maps that will work well enough to run your bike. Remember though, your best option is always to get a custom tune. though.

Check what com port you have the cable using to connect to the ecm. There are several options and if you don't choose the correct one, it won't connect.
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The_new_guy
Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got one step further. It reads VDO/DFI(I think those are the correct abbreviations) on tne bottom right of the VDSTS screen but still will not connect.

Gregg
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The_new_guy
Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i put the stock ecm back and the vdsts software works fine. put the race ecm back in and it didn't work. i think my ecm is bad? i know i read something about that in a recent thread.
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Curtyd
Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine took a half hour according to the clock in clock out ticket, but I still had to pay the 1.0 hour Book Rate, that's OK, too. I am just glad Jim's HD got it in on short notice and done. I was "on the road." The muffler and ECM had been put on for "nuthin".
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