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Jjoehler
Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an 03 buell xb9s and the bike won't start I have a brand new battery it wasn't that, and it's fully charged. The solenoid for the starter just chatters and the bike won't start, and yes my connections to the battery are tight? Any ideas? I can push start the bike but that sucks. Is my starter shot? Thanks
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Drfuyutsuki
Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds to me like either a connection is loose or corroded thus not letting enought juice get through to actually turn the starter.
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Rr_eater
Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

check the grounds!!!!!
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah definitely start with the ground cable where it connects to the frame of the bike and work your way out.

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Moonrunrs
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

this is weird but the same thing happens to me. Loosen your battery connections then retighten. For me, the bike will now start. I have to do this periodically, it's strange. I Need to take it in.
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Aeroe
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like you're getting some corrosion and it's messing with your connection. Any auto parts store should have something to help defend against that.
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CJXB
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lately when I start my bike, it hesitates before starting making me think it’s not going to turn over. Then when it does finally fire up the trip meters and clock reset back to 0 ??

This has happened about 4 or 5 times now. After the bike starts and you kill it, then it starts up fine and no resetting of trip meters, so if I’m out riding I’m not too worried about it starting if I stop for gas or something.

The trip meter re-set isn’t good for me, because I don’t like waiting for my gas light to let me know I need gas, I use the trip meter. Someone told me I need a new battery, others say not, any thoughts ??

CJ
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

CJ, that's pretty classic behavior for loose/corroded battery terminals. Before blaming the battery, I'd pull the terminals, scrub them with a wire brush, and reconnect them nice and tight and see if the problem persists.
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CJXB
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just scrub with a wire brush, nothing else ??

I'll give that a try first and see what happens, does make sense because when it does start it doesn't seem like the battery is weak at all !

Thanks, CJ : )
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, just a stiff-bristled wire brush. It should remove any corrosion (do the terminals and the battery posts) and allow a good contact. Corrosion isn't always visually apparent, and even just being a bit loose can cause that kind of behavior.
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CJXB
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Darthane, I'll give it a try this weekend !!
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

CJXB, the ground cable on your battery is most likely at fault.

It took me a long time of being frustrated and throwing things around the garage before I figured this out.

(1) Use Loc-Tite on the threads
(2) Torque the battery terminals to factory spec. 72-96 in-lbs
(3) ALSO Loc-Tite and torque the main ground fastener where it attaches to the frame.

Same torque value for all 3 locations, positive terminal, negative terminal and main ground fastener (where the negative cable meets the frame of the bike)

This cured every electronic and electrical gremlin I ever had. I bought a new battery before I figured it out, and it was confusing at first because when you put in a new one you have a hard time believing that it's anything having to do with the battery.

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CJXB
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll try that as well, so far 2 things to try that don't take a whole lot of effort and/or cost !! : )
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Swordsman
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Crazy as it is, you can pour a bit of carbonated beverage (Coke, carbonated water, whatever) on the corrosion and it just disappears. Some kinda' chemical reaction with the carbonic acid. A quick way to clean your terminals if you don't have a wire brush handy, though it can get a bit sticky if you're using a soda.

~SM
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Moonrunrs
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 01:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where's the main ground fastener on the battery?
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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>Where's the main ground fastener on the battery

its bolted to the negative terminal
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Josh_
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>Crazy as it is, you can pour a bit of carbonated beverage

mythbusters says any liquid works just fine
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