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Cereal
Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interesting, but I think I'll pass.

http://www.freespiritsrdc.com/news_en.php
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Xb12rdude
Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hmmmmm.........
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Tiburondriver47
Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks interesting. Hope someone buys it and lets us know what he thinks.
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New12r
Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where does he put the engine oil? Dual discs?
That is neat but it is no longer a Buell!
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Beachbuell
Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interesting, very interesting indeed.
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Leftcoastal
Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pretty cool!
Seems like a well executed solution to a non-existent problem, though.
I've always felt that if you have an open primary on an XL based motor, you are left with a really unsightly and open gasket surface where the cover was.
Some kind of a machined ring or cowling that would mount where the cover was, giving it a finished-off appearance, would fix that right up. In this application it could incorporate the mounting brackets for the clutch actuator, shifter & idler.
I'm sure that would only triple the already high price!
Wouldn't there be a bit of additional machine work involved to get the tranny separated from the primary so that it wouldn't leak at the door? New door w/o holes? Also how do ya fill and drain the tranny now that it's closed off from the original fill and drain that was for both the primary & trans?
This could cost more than my first 4 Harleys, combined.
My head's starting to hurt - I'll just shut up now.


AL
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Kdan
Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What will the whiny anti-belters say about this?
It's a belt, it's going to be unreliable. I know I've never actually seen a belt break, but the 4 guys on badweb that have had one break multiple times are making me nervous.
I don't like dry open primaries.
Here's your sign.
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Aussie_buell
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 05:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

kdan

i wouldnt want an open cover either. See them on the choppers all the time, look cool but make me nervous.

I take it its a whole new clutch too right??? hmmmm sounds expensive.

Nice workmanship though.

(Message edited by aussie_buell on July 30, 2006)

(Message edited by aussie_buell on July 30, 2006)
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Bake
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No thanks, not for me.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kdan, most "anti-belters" are anti-03-belters. Not belts in general, unless gearing changes are needed.

I have questions, many of which have already been voiced in this thread, but no problems with it just because it's a belt drive.
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Pupu
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i would like one, looks like the one on that uly that was posted on here, i think tojans or someone? i bet it costs a fortune, which would rule it out for me, but if the price was right, i would be all over it. makes it that much more unique.
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Pupu
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

where is the oil on that bike? i didnt see a oil tank.
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yea, I just noticed that too. They also completely changed the front fork assembly, doing away with the original brakes. I wonder why they kept the mass-centralized exhaust and the fuel tank frame. They made the bike the same as all the rest with everything else.

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Pupu
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"The belt primary was not made to sell but as a showcase for Marcello's talents at Free Spirits. It would be very expensive, but if demand is there......." quoted earlier this year.

yup, it was the one trojan used, i wonder what "very expensive"is? apparently they think the demand is there now.
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99buellx1
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Trojan runs that on their race bike.
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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

where is the oil on that bike?
There is none.
If you could see the rest of the bike you'd see the open dry crank case as well.
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Buellshyter
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No oil??...Someone explain to me how that works
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Darkducati
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not big on the open drive, but 5kg is a lot of rotating mass. If the figure is in fact for the assembly and not the cover, fluid, etc. it should make a noticeable difference. Might be worth it for a race bike.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i like it. i would put one on in a minute.(if i could afford it) i love the look of the open belt and have asked about if this could be done on the xb before, but at the time there were no one that offered a kit for it.

i think it looks pretty sweet. but then again, my taste is not the same as most.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That bike has an oil tank in the tail section.
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