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Frequency
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok this just started yesterday and today it was bad.
Key in,
Turn,
Kill switch set to run.
so far so good
hit start,
*click**click**click**click**click**click*
all lights are on so its not the battery...
Ok lets roll forward while starting
*vroom**vroom*

Bike refuses to start with a roll forward while starting.

2005 XB9SX - Warranty just ran out : (

Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Pupu
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

mine would do that with a low battery, the lights still work, but could not crank it over. if you can bump start it, then ride for a while, shut it off then start again, might just have been a low battery.
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Perry
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

lights take less power than the starter, so that doesn't mean anything.

Leave the lights on and you won't be able to start it even though the lights still look bright.

I vote battery.
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Mdm
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>all lights are on so its not the battery...
but it is
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Frequency
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>all lights are on so its not the battery...
>>but it is

But i've ridden close to 300 miles since this has started yesterday, could my battery jsut not be holding enough of a charge to turn it over?
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Pupu
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

check the connections on the battery, possibly the current for the starter cant make it but they other accesories still work
other than that, you got me. i do know people have complained of bad connections on the battery though
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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Charge the battery then have it load tested. If it is good then look to the charging system.

(Message edited by Speedfreaks101 on July 18, 2006)
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yup, its the battery!!!!
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like battery, or connection to the battery to me too.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What you may have is a weak battery that is not holding a charge. Once you get it going it is running off of the charging circuit.

Got a VOM? A guy whose warranty just expired and who is going to be doing his own work needs one. Along with a service manual and parts book of course.

If you check the voltage across the battery terminals with the engine running and see around 14 Volts or so that means the charging circuit (alternator and voltage regulator) are good.

When you shut it off after an ride (30 minutes or more) the battery should be fully charged. So checking the voltage then (engine stopped, ignition off) should show something like 12.8 Volts or more. And that voltage should not drop much with the ignition on, maybe 1 or 2 tenths of a Volt.

If you let it set for an hour or overnight and that has fallen to 12 or 12.2 volts or so, your battery is probably the problem. When you try to start it if the voltage drops way down into the 11 or even 10 Volt range when you hit the starter you definitely have a battery problem.

Jack
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Buellfirebolt31
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think its a battery....try a battery tender..have you heard of that?(not being a wise-guy either)
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Frequency
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yea i have it on the battery tender now, thanks for all the help guys goign let it on over night see waht she does in the morning and go from there
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Buellfirebolt31
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But remember the tender will only raise it or keep it at the correct level of juice only if its above 12.4 or something along that line...its not a full blown charger
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, been there, done that. It's likely the battery starting to poop out on you. Consider yourself lucky. Motorcycle batteries are often short-lived devices.
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They've already said it, but I'll reiterate.

1st of all, check the battery connections. By that I mean take them off and take sandpaper or a wire brush to them to clean them off, then put them on nice and tight.

Charge the battery, if necessary, and see if it will start. If it will, put a voltmeter across it while running and verify that it's charging.

If it isn't, you now need to look at your charging system.

If it is, leave it overnight and check the voltage on the battery again the next morning without the bike running. If it's low then, you have a bad battery or an excessive key-off load.

Check key-off load by disconnecting the battery lead and putting a voltmeter in-line between the connection points set to monitor milliamps. Anything much over 2mA could indicate a problem.

(Message edited by darthane on July 19, 2006)
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