| Author | Message | ||
     Americanmadexb |
how many of you do it and how much harm can it do? I do this MAYBE, once a month or so if im messing around or racing someone. i ofcourse ease off the throttle before upshifting but there has been a few times i was early and didnt let off the gas in time and the gears go in good, the bike just lunges forward. Its definatly the way to go if your racing. (im sure you all know). Is this ok to do? DiabloBrian.... do you use the clutch with you setup on ALL upshifts?? | ||
| 12r |
I do it occasionally when I'm confident that the primary is correctly adjusted  I swear sometimes when I foul it up I can feel the belt groan and then kindof snap back into place, but when I get it right it feels good. | ||
| Slaughter |
I did it for a weekend of racing when I had stitches and a skin graft in my left hand. You can bend the shifter forks with too much of it - but if you are pretty good at RPM matching, it is surprisingly smooth (even with my clunky '03 XB) | ||
| Cereal |
I've been doing it for years on S1 without a problem. I have even learned to downshift without the clutch, but do it sparingly. | ||
| Ride365 |
Ya I upshift with no clutch all the time, got close to 20K on my bike and no problems | ||
| Silverado140 |
What about upshifting with clutch, but not lifting off the throttle (i.e. racing situations). How much harm am I doing to the bike? Note - the engine might hit the rev limiter I'm doing it so fast. This is probably pretty similar to using no clutch at all. | ||
| Skyguy |
I upshift and sometimes even downshift clutchless. You do have to be able to RPM match though or it can upset the handling while running hard. | ||
| Beachbuell |
Not the best idea for longevity of your transmission! | ||
| Jaimec |
I always wondered why anyone would WANT to shift without the clutch intentionally (other than a broken clutch cable). My friend put it into perspective for me. He pointed out that the clutch is considered a normal wear item, and therefore is not covered by your two-year, unlimited mileage warranty. However, your transmission IS covered, so if you have to blow something, blow the thing that you can get replaced for free... | ||
| Sokota |
Ive shifted a lot of bikes without the clutch , instinctively the Buell has me always using the clutch , probally due to the low rpm torque it puts out and its flywheel enertia , feels like it can break things | ||
| Isham |
I snapped the little bolt that secures the lever with the clutch, Not sure if i'll be shifting like that any time soon... | ||
| Dmextreme |
When I went on a Poker Run here in Iowa earlier this spring/summer, I was with mostly I4's. I was redlining and no clutch action was enforced. But I will say this, getting up to speed on the CityX I could keep up pretty good doing it that way. However on the stretches, it was no match.. corners, i had'em. I rode the bike hard that day, and I been lovin her ever since. She's a great bike, and I am glad things are still good between us. So far since upgrade of race ecm, muffler, and filter, things are fantastic. It's freakin blazin outside. Wearing my leather and helmet, i take it off and my sskin gets pruned. Lovely time. _____________________ Jerry L. // West Des Moines, IA | ||
| Blake |
Racers use speed shifting cause it allows quicker faster shifting, thus lower lap times.  I don't think it is something one would want to do unless racing. | ||
| Diablobrian |
I do it constantly, but I have an ignition interrupt that unloads the transmission while shifting. One of the benefits of my push button shifter. Manually it is much harder to do and easier to damage your motor or tranny. There really isn't a benfit on the street other than trying for "cool points" with the bench racing crowd. Not trying to flame, just trying to figure out a reason to try to do it on purpose on the street.  | ||
| Odinbueller |
For street riding, I try to discourage it. It's easier to service the clutch, as opposed to splitting your engine cases to service your transmission. Here's what could go wrong on clutchless shifts: 1. Bent or excessively worn shifter forks. 2. Notched or excessively worn shift drum. 3. Excessive wear on engagement gears. 4. Broken shift linkages. 6. Stripped gears a possibility on 2006 and later models with helical cut gears if shift goes south. Not to mention possible engine damage if you miss the shift entirely. Unless your are racing on the track, there's no need to do it. Chris |
