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Humboldtblast
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Need some feedback on what kind of jacket to get. Needs to stand up to the rain and cold, but also not a rug in the heat. Something that would look decent with my XB9s. Thanks all!!!!
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Buckinfuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

forget about weather... protect your hide!!! Go with all leather, heavy leather. Perforated leather and zippable vents. I got the ICON motorhead.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My Buell Vanson leather jacket is a great three season jacket.
Summer is killer in just about every jacket I've owned.
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Buckinfuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, my jacket sucks in the Alabama summers, and I feel like a tool when I ride up next to some fat Harley guy in his wife beater... but, if both should go down, i know who would come up smilin'... go ahead and sweat it out, it's good for your health and longevity.
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Snakedriver
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You should buy at least 2. My first one was a Cortec 3 season nylon w/armor. My second I just got its a AGV Sport "breeze". It has armor as well. Boy does it flow the air. Its perforated leather.
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Xring
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got a JR Meteor 4.0 textile jacket on closeout last year. It is a good 3 season jacket, but too hot in the summer.

Got a JR Santa Fe mesh body/perforated leather sleeve jacket for summertime use; now I use it most of the time. If it is a little chilly I put on a windbreaker under it.

I'm sure it's not as much protection as leather, but beats the nylon or denim jackets I used to wear. The first time you ride with mesh on in hot weather is an eye-opener.

Good luck,
Bill
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Fl_a1a
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Depends were you live. In FL there summer and everything else. I'm on my 5th jacket and the only thing that works for me is the teknik mesh. I've taken a fall if you get a jacket with zip off sleaves then you might as well not wear a jacket cause you elbows and arms always touch the pavement in a fall. With a mesh you can always put a warm clothes underneath and over the jacket. I use to sweat but then you do way too much laundry and stink like a pig. If you use your bike to daily like commuting you have to find something workable. For the weekends I like my icon leather, only if it is in the 70s.
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Humboldtblast
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

buying two seems like the way to go.... i want to protect my hide but also dont want wet cold and miserable... choices choices what about the fieldsheer congo?
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Whodom
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You may find that you need at least two jackets to cover the temperature ranges you ride in.

For really hot weather, the armored mesh jackets offer very good protection. Motorcycle Consumer News requested comments from their readers a few years ago and received numerous letters from people who'd gone down in mesh jackets with no serious scrapes. Sure perforated leather is probably better, but if you're so hot you can't ride safely, that may be a larger hazard.

There are at least a couple of companies now making mesh jackets with zip-in insulated liners and zip on outer weather covers (Joe Rocket's version is called the "Meteor"; there are at least one or two others). That pretty much will work for you from 100+ degrees F down to ~50 degrees F. You may find that one of these will do everything you need.
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Nastynate4469
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check out the Joe Rocket supermoto jacket. It has a tone breathing and I beleive it aslo has a zip in liner.
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Ride365
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Best kinda jacket is the kind that hangs up good in the closet and stays there! Unless it's butt-a** cold why ya need one? Plannin on spending much time using your body to hold you up?
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Skyguy
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can show you the best all weather jacket. It will be the best hands down. Even four season worthy. You just have to be prepared to see the price tag.....................

Do you wanna see the jacket and price tag? I think I can post it because it is not offered by any of the sponsors. I will let this sit for a second just to make sure I do not piss off the gods, opps I mean mods sorry (:
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Humboldtblast
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

do you need my first born for it?
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Skyguy
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pretty darn close. With the pants it is 1,200+ made of kevlar mesh, lots of armor and has a gortex liner setup for winter. Guys ride the mesh in the summer and say it is as bearable as anything made. Very nice stuff.

I want to get the summer setup but it is a three month wait (custom only) so I have time as I have a nice winter setup.

lookup moto gp and motorcycle suit. The company is in southern cali.
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Tunes
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After buying many, many purpose and multi-purpose jackets, coats and suits, I settled on the MotoGP 3-in-1 Mesh Jacket as my hot weather jacket... hence the mesh. But I like and need the versatility of being able to deal with rapid weather/temperature changes. New England is good for this... rain one minute followed by scorching hot/humid sun and heat followed by a wind shift off the ocean. Cold. I still have my "most of the time jacket" which is vented but not enough for mildly hot weather. Major furnace... like my hot weather jacket, Technik Touring Coat. No vents, full velcro-in liner. Very warm, waterproof, heavy cordura, armor...and I have several leather jackets, some vented, some not. Just trying to use the best/safest equipment out there...and you get overlaps. Too much stuff, man.
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Lorazepam
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I buy "last years" style from motorcycle closeouts.com. I have a First gear Kilimanjaro, a great 3 season, waterproof jacket, and a first gear mesh tech jacket.

I also have a set of first gear leathers. 10 year warranty, and armor is included in the price.

He has some nice cortech jackets on sale right now, and some from technic. Rusty is a good guy and has great service. No affiliation other than a satisfied customer.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Please post this kind of thread to the "Knowledge Vault - Apparel..." topic.

172689
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Molly_hatchet
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so far my moto-gp seems to be my best all around jacket...great in the rain and without the 2 liners good in the summer....if u need leather....good luck with that i have 3 and their all hot in the summer....maybe perforated....id get two one leather and one textile...i got my motogp for 30$ on ebay ....my mtotgp cucuit is an ex large if ur interested il let it go for 50$.
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Bosh
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 06:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Joe Rocket Sonic is a great hot weather jacket. Air blows right through it when you're moving. Perforated leather and reasonable price. It also has a zip in liner.
You really do need two jackets IMHO if you are going to ride both winter and summer.
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T9r
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 07:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pretty much anything made by Aerostich. Many BMW riders have this apparel. I love my 2 piece suit. It is great for touring and sport touring. Not very sporty but that is when I put my Vanson leathers on.
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If looks matter, ignore the rest of this.

I have crashed in my Aerostitch Road crafter and it did great. I've read about two other people that crashed at 100mph in them and they did not burn through.

Tons of venting and tons of pockets. Also very warm in winter. You have to treat the seams occasionally for waterproofing.

It is a full suit that fits over your clothes. You can wear just the jacket, but that doesn't really make much sense. I have the two piece but never wear the jacket by itself. I'd buy the one piece if I did it again.
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Skyguy
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.motoport.com/ Makes Aerostitch seems like kiddie clothes. I had an aerostitch BTW. To freaking hot in summer. To freaking leaky in the rain.

I have recently seen pictures of ballistics nylon melting into someones skin after a long slide. Very not pretty, very painfull to fix.

Leather of Kevlar for me. Anything else is just not worth it.
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Ejiii
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aerostich Darien jacket & Pants. I'm going on my 2nd suit after 7 years on the first one. It was not anywhere near worn out but I just had the "I wants". I dumped the black jacket and went Hi-Viz yellow! 100% great in the teaming rain and as cool as any other jacket in the summer.
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Alanshouse
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use my Joe Rocket Meteor 5.0 everyday this summer, and I am comfortable...as long as I'm moving. Sitting still I sweat a lot.
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Mikemax
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like my Tour Master Intake mesh jacket best for sport touring in weather from about 50 - 90 degrees (anything over that it breathes great but you just flow HOT air). It has some CE armour and two zip in liners, one plain wind shell and one slightly quilted warmth one. I'd get perf'd leather and live with the sweat if you are hitting a hot track day though.
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Big +1 to the aerostich suit, or a set of perforated Vanson leathers.

I have found out my aerostich works for my up to 95 degrees. I have a black/silver one piece.
As long as you are moving you are fine. Sitting in traffic with the cooling fan running sucks...
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Perry
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the Joe Rocket Alter Ego, which has panels that zip out to make a mesh jacket for the summer. I ride from 20-105 degrees depending on the season, so that's quite the range.

the Alter Ego works great. It is barely tolerable at 95+ degrees, but what isn't? With the liner (comes with it) it keeps me warm to about 45-50.

Last year I modded the liner and turned it into an electric heated piece - that plus the heated grips from American Sport Bike keeps me warm down into the 20's. Here's the details:
http://perrypoint.com/heatedgear/
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Col_klink
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jim,

I really enjoyed your /heatedgear/ page on your website. I think that such 'sites are one of the best things about the web. I have a website of my own you might be interested in, at:

http://users.bigpond.net.au/nwarne/index.htm

Do you have any other motorcycling-related pages on the 'site?

Klink
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Col_klink
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

..oh, and that Shadowriders link ain't working!

Klink
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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As stated above by Skyguy the Nylon will melt into your skin in a long slide but supposedly Cordura will not. Vanson makes a Buell line and they also make a Cordura jacket.

http://www.buell.com/en_us/bikes_gear/apparel/Product.asp?Menu_ID=1&CategoryID=4 &ProductID=2129

http://www.vansonleathers.com/buell.htm


For 129 that is not bad. I would make sure that I also bought a spine protector to go with it though.

Later,
Bart
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Humboldtblast
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nylon in your skin ...ouch , sounds like a cheep way to do plastic surgery
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Sleez
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i really like my joe rocket meteor.
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Skyguy
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cordura will also melt into your skin. Cordura motorcycle clothing is a bad idea. I did a ton of research and will be upgrading to the motoport stuff for next season.

Going to take that long to afford it.

As I said I had an Aerostitch and IMHO it is inferior to the motoport stuff. Can't tell you how many times my crotch got soaked in rain rides. Any moment not moving in the heat would cause me to sweat to no end. Although it is a little less expensive than Motoport.

Leather or Kevlar any less is just that, less.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, July 14, 2006 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The best all weather jacket is the one you will wear, and not leave on the hanger in the closet.

Kangaroo hide is the best abrasion resistance/weight material, but it's expensive.

Goat, and deer are better than cow hide, but cow hide does the job and is usually less
expensive than the more exotic stuff.

Vented leather gear with zip in liners make the best muti-season rigs. If you get a mesh
jacket with armor to supplement it for really hot days you should be in great shape.
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