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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

About a mile from home the "Check Engine" light came on and stayed on. Too dark to see anything. 6,000+ miles, and my first "issue." Oh well. Not bad, considering my first issue with my 2000 M2 Cyclone occured at 300 miles. In fact, by 6,000 miles on the Cyclone I'd already had FOUR issues (and it left me stranded once) so I guess things are better.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

do you have a service manual?

if not, here's how you can find the trouble code:

Find your data link cable near your left front turn signal under the fairing. Remove the dust cap. Turn the plug so that the clip is facing up and look straight into it, you'll see four pins. The two on the right are pins number 1 and 2. The numbering of the pins is clockwise from the top right.

Place a shunt across the #1 and #2 pins, shorting the circuit. I use a fancy paperclip that happens to fit in there, anything metal that crosses those two pins but doesn't touch the others will work.

Now turn the key to the on position. Do not start the bike. The light should flash six times, pause two seconds, then it will flash in 1 second intervals, counting out the first digit. Then it will pause again for two seconds, and begin flashing again in one second intervals counting out the second digit.

There will be another two second pause. Then more one second interval flashing. Count them again to make sure there is only one code in the ecm. If it repeats the same code twice then that is the only trouble code. Keep watching it until it repeats the first code again. If a different code flashes the second time, keep watching until all codes are complete. It will repeat flashing all codes in order with pauses in between. Probably you only have one code.

here's a list of codes:

11 = TPS
13 = O2 Sensor
14 = ETS
15 = Intake air temp sensor
16 = battery voltage
21 = interactive exhaust control
23 = front fuel injector
24 = front ignition coil
25 = rear ignition coil
32 = rear fuel injector
33 = fuel pump
35 = tachometer
36 = cooling fan
44 = bank angle sensor
52,53,54,55 = ECM failure
56 = cam sync failure

hope that helps.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmmmmm... I'm at the office right now, but: Here's what led up to the "failure:" I had stopped at my brother's house (he's on vacation) to check his mail. I parked the bike and shut it off and (of course) the fan came on. After taking his mail out of the mailbox and putting it on his dining room table, I locked up the house and went back to the bike. The fan was still running. With the fan running, I turned on the ignition, waited for the "Check Engine" light to go out, and pressed the starter button. The fan turned off as soon as the engine was running.

I'd gotten about a block away from the house when the "Check Engine" light came back on and stayed on. I haven't checked it yet this morning. After reading your above post, maybe it was temperature related?
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Could be the nibblet pin from the wobbler shaft.
Seriously though, what you described about your ride sounded completely normal operation.
Check your codes when you get home, it's really the only way to tell without taking it in.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

By the way, the above directions seem to imply a Firebolt. I have a Lightning Long. Is the plug in question in the same location or buried somewhere else?
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Fl_a1a
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That what happens when the interactive exhaust start having problems.

Sometimes the check engine light won't come on until you give it enough gas to make the servo go and open up the butterfly valves in the muffler.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Im not sure where the plug is on your bike but it should be the same plug when you find it. Just make sure the clip that holds the dust cover (mine never had a cover) is facing up, and the two pins on the right are the 1 and 2.
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U4euh
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

On my 03 S model it is located near the pin that the seat latches to. On the right hand side, if that helps. Anyone have pictures to waht the plug SHOULD look like. That was a bit of good info, thanks.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Ds_tiger
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pwnzor-
Dood- good deal. Above and Beyond with the codes and PICs

That is the stuff that makes great value here (this forum)

Steve

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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 01:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love this method because if my light comes on, I can immediately pull over and diagnose it. I just keep the list of codes under the seat with my other paperwork.

You are surely welcome.
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Vaneo1
Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PWNZOR,
thanks for the words of wisdom, cool
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The rain finally stopped and I got home with enough daylight to FINALLY check. The plug on the Lightning Long is under the saddle along the right side rail as was mentioned above. Following the procedure Matt outlined above, I came up with "21" or "Interactive Exhaust." Now what? Anything I can do? Or do I make an appointment at the dealership?
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