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Tommy_k
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not sure if this has been discussed before, but has anyone thought of the possible negative effects of using a super-light muffler on the Buell? It seems to me that Buell went through great efforts to keep the weight low and centralized. Excuse my physics if I'm wrong, but wont putting a light muffler under the bike raise the center of gravity. I can see the obvious benefits of going lighter overall, but I would think weight taken from the top and outer edges of the bike would be better. Maybe that's why it looks like the XBRR used a full length, steel muffler instead of something carbon or titanium.

Just wondering what everyone thinks of this?
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TK
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When you change mufflers, that is the first thing you notice. The bike is so much easier to turn, it becomes more flickable. I would think you'd have to do more than just replace mufflers to get the bike upset.
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When you initially counter steer the bike, it will rotate around the CG (mostly). A higher CG will make the bottom of the bike move out further. There's still less of a "moment" though, so it'll roll out easier.
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Ride365
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmmmm maybe weld a couple 5lb weights to the bottom of the new can?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ummmmm.......NO
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Xbolt12
Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree with Glitch and that is exactly what happened with my 12R when I put a Jardine Ti on it (-18 lbs). Believe it or not modern sportbike design has raised the cg in some cases to get better turn-in and handling. Low cg seems to make a bike more stable in my experience, but of course that stability has other effects as well. I did have a steering damper though and also Diablo Corsas, so my bike was pretty stable already for a 52" wheelbase sportbike. I would think Buell put the weight down below because if you have the weight, it's better not to put it way up high (like most IL4's), and also because they had to work to keep such a short bike stable without a damper.
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