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Eric_m
| | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 10:30 pm: | 
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" not to mention that new students wouldn't have the confidence to perform such manuevers and actually learn (fear block)."
Then how do you give them a licence?
"Oh... by the way... you might encounter some stuff on the street that is over your head and potentially fatal... good luck."
Sorry, not personall, just the concept of it.
(Message edited by Eric_M on June 26, 2006) |
Hogs
| | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 10:33 pm: |
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I can't say I've ever randomly had a wreck on a straight section of road. Can anyone else?
Happeneds all the time...Its called driving to FAST for road conditions...
Hitting a dip in the road at too fast of a speed will put ya in a tank slapper pretty easy, Don`t fool yourself
Been there, Seen it done, And know others that have done same... |
Eric_m
| | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 10:37 pm: |
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"Hitting a dip in the road at too fast of a speed will put ya in a tank slapper pretty easy, Don`t fool yourself"
How about hitting that same bump at the same speed on one wheel... likely the case. |
Brihumphries3988
| | Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 10:58 pm: |
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100 ft + 115 mph no braking marks guessing
swipper turn or wheeling and drifted off the road guessing
kid under 20 years old guessing
750 gsrx
thank for sharing and help out |
Angelwild327
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 03:54 pm: |
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"Then how do you give them a licence?"
Probably similar to the way we get our driver's license...
you prove you can drive to the dude at the DMV and voila...you get a license.. |
Buellisti
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 05:06 pm: |
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45 mph may be just about right given the distances. About two weeks ago, I saw a young couple on a GSXR600 get tagged by an idiot who made an illegal left. I saw two bodies cartwheeling through the air with the component parts of the bike following. The bike flew about 90 feet and the guy and gal landed about 130 from the car they hit. That was at about 55 mph. Both in helmets, alive, and rather badly scraped up. The bike in much worse condition than the one in the photo above. |
Diablobrian
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 05:40 pm: |
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His bike damage looks almost exactly like mine did after I got hit. combined speed was around 70mph.
I was doing 40mph and the girl that hit me was doing 30mph. The bike frame even broke the same way.
We also flew a good distance before hitting the tarmac too.
I am certain there was some foolishness involved in this accident. |
Buellisti
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 07:26 pm: |
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Gotta agree there. Telephone poles are generally difficult to hit as they are not in the lane of travel and are kind of stationary and such. |
Buell
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 12:58 pm: |
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Here's a question that I've always wanted to ask and get a serious answer:
Why wear the pants, boots, jacket and gloves and then either strap your helmet to the back of the bike or don't have it on you at all?? (Or why even buy that hundreds of dollars worth of gear in the first place?) What's the point? 
I had a buddy who taught me to ride a long time ago who swore agains wearing a helmet, and sure enough, was unlucky enough to get hit by a car and was killed only because his head was hit so hard.
I guess some people just gotta learn the hard way.. Look at Rothlesburger - He is potentially a huge role model, especially for the younger riders. Now that he's come out and said that he will always wear a helmet, that is a very good thing... maybe it will convince someone else. Unfortunately it seems that most people never think that "it could happen to me". I will say that MOST of the Buell riders I see out there always wear their gear. |
Glitch
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 01:50 pm: |
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Every Bike Night we see people roll up with nice helmets on, sweet racing leather jackets, nice racing gloves, and shorts and tennis shoes.
Or, a guy in full racing leather, with his girlfriend on the back in shorts and a tank top.
I don't get it either. |
Ulywife
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 02:04 pm: |
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with his girlfriend on the back in shorts and a tank top.
worse yet, their child dressed in shorts and t-shirt. We've spent almost as much in our daughter's gear as we have Carlos'. She has a full-faced helmet, leather gloves, textile riding pants, boots and a mesh armour jacket. Our next purchase is mesh pants and a textile jacket. It's costly, but less expensive than plastic surgery, not to mention the guilt we'd feel if something unfortunate should happen because we failed to protect her.
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Tunes
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 04:34 pm: |
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I hate to see accidents. I hope the guy pulls thru... and I hope he learned a lesson about riding and safety gear.
The MSF Advanced Riders Course does have accident avoidance training. This course is worth every penny.
Ya... no shirt, sneakers or sandals, shorts, helmet (or not), shorty gloves... and the same for the passenger. I call this attire; "Uniform of the day." All I can think about is road rash, brush baths for getting all the bits outa the deep recesses of the flesh and iodine. Ouch!!
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Hacksaw
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 04:50 pm: |
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Having just taken a dive from my bike I am oh so happy to have had all the correct protective gear on. The only road rash that I had was on my wrists where the gloves and jacket separated. The rest of the damage was from the impact on the road. Can't say enough about suiting up when riding. |
Edonis
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 02:05 am: |
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"Then how do you give them a licence?
"Oh... by the way... you might encounter some stuff on the street that is over your head and potentially fatal... good luck."
Sorry, not personall, just the concept of it."
I'll deviate from the topic one more time, anymore and PM. I'm all up for an intelligent conversation.
We set the basic foundation for the students. We don't make them motorcyclists. They must do this themselves. It is when they use this foundation and build experience using it that they apply it and become a motorcyclist. We teach them a strategies to deal with various conversations, yet of course not every variable can be accounted for. Make sense.
As for a tank slapper- Once you release the bars to allow the front wheel to maintane a straight track, doesn't that council out the oscillation? |
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