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Earwig
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone know if its ok to take off the sticker on the front right side of the frame with the manufactured date and VIN number? Also, anyone know if its ok to use simple green on the power coated wheels? Thanks.
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Olinxb12r
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not sure about the simple green because I've never tried it, but you can take the sticker off if you want. The vin is eched in to the frame anyway.
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use dish-washing soap on my wheels... Seems to work and diluted simple green is probably less harsh... I'd use it...
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Two concerns to removing the VIN sticker is:
1. If you get pulled over by an officer then you will have some explaining to do and some convincing that it's not a stolen bike.
1a. There may be local laws relating to this.

2. If you ever decide to sell the bike then you will have some explaining to do to any potential buyers.
2a. I had someone once tell me that the engine numbers on their panhead Harley engine were only lightly stamped in and were accidently removed while cleaning the grease off the engine. Yeah, sure, uh huh.

YMMV
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Xbeau12s
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can I ask why? You can't see it when your riding, Not that big of a sticker. Anyways, it displays your bikes birthday, Mikej explained it well. You'll just run into problems along with scratching your frame trying to get it off.

I use Armor All Car wash soap to clean the wheels, dirt doesn't stick to it as much as regular soap and it's made for the automotive world.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wouldn't use simple green on aluminum unless it was very diluted.
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Eexb
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wouldn't use Simple Green on ANYTHING except my garage floor.

Used it to degrease a race car about 3 years ago and it stained just about every surface it touched !!!

(Message edited by eexb on June 15, 2006)
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Bigblock
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ya, and plain old tide laundry soap will do a better job on your garage floor!
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Cochise
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't speak for Earwig, but I take all my stickers off, I feel it cleans it up. About the VIN thing, if it was against the law to take it off, it wouldn't be a sticker. I took my sticker off and stuck it to the bottom of my seat pan.
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Earwig
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the responses... I took it off but I am going to save it in the owners manual.
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71sportster
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd check the local law in your state.
The whole thing is a joke anyway. You can buy a frame & Title at any salvage and drill out the Vin #, heliarc over and re-stamp the new frame number on ANY bike.
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Jerseybuell
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have used Simple Green without problems. However, it is a fairly strong de-greaser and switched to S100 to make sure I didn't have any issues with prolonged use. I have used S100 on my other motorcycles for many years...
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Mountainbiker90
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the vin is stamped on the frame near the head, only a few inches away from the sticker. if the sticker was important, it wouldn't be a sticker, it'd be something permanent. mine was a pain to take off. a heat gun and patience is about the best method.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"if the sticker was important, it wouldn't be a sticker..."

Closed loop logic!
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Jimduncan69
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i am with Jerseybuell. i use S100 it works really well.
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Ratyson
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love my vin sticker... My born on date say JUL 04.. I know the 04 is the year and not the day, but it is cool to have an american made bike with JUL 04 on it as a born on date.
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Bcordb3
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

American iron born on the 4th of July, that's yankee doodle dandy (boy, am I sorry for that attempt at humor).

BUT, it is cool.
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use have used Simple Green since 2000 when I bought my cyclone.Haven't had any issues. Not expensive and easy to find...Charlie
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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2006 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Believe it or not, the sticker is actually the "official" VIN marking for the vehicle. So while the VIN is stamped into the steering head and engine (part of the VIN anyway), the bike does not meet the requirement without the sticker.
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Don668
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 01:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

According to the manual, the official VIN is stamped on the right front frame near the steering head, Motor ID is stamped on the crankcase near the front of the engine. I personally removed all the stickers with a blow dryer. Bike looks much cleaner.
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Kdan
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 03:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used some brake cleaner to remove a stubborn spot of spluge on the frame and it erased all the numbers and words on my sticker, so yeah, it's gone. What good is a blank sticker?
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71sportster
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2006 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't wait to see what's going to happen when these guys who removed their VIN stickers try to sell their bikes to someone out of State.
Especially if that person is from NJ, or CA. That sale won't go through!
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Firefightergarcia
Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a question on where can I get my Vin decal? I'm missing the one on my 9s.
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Earwig
Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 02:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I took mine off but saved it. I have a hard time believing there will be a problem. Since it is just a crappy sticker.
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71sportster
Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Have any of you tried to get a driver's license lately, with the new "6 point system"?
It’s a total nightmare, if not impossible.
Ever since 9-11 the bureaucrats have become ridiculous, trying to prevent terrorism & fraud.
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Earwig
Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

71sportster: "Ever since 9-11 the bureaucrats have become ridiculous, trying to prevent terrorism & fraud."

Ya but it is funny as hell watching the DMV/MVC clerks try and explain the system to people that don't understand english... it makes for nice entertainment while waiting in those cramped up seating areas.
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Patrickh
Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use simple green on EVERYTHING. I use a whole bottle of the stuff when I clean my bike. Takes off grease, brake dust and any other road slime. I soak the brakes, motor and wheels and spray it off with a strong jet of water while it is still dripping wet. I never let it dry on my bike.

The stuff is great, won't harm rubber or paint or anything. I does haze unpainted aluminum but it comes back quickly with some mothers polish.

so ends my rant on the wonders of Simple Green
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Thumper2811
Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm with Patrickh I use simple green to clean my whole bike, never had any problems. Been using it for 3 years.
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Molly_hatchet
Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2006 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

most degreasers are safe to use but its a good idea to keep ur bike wet to prevent staining...castrol super clean is about as close to an industrial degreaser as u can get....i owned a detail shop for years and still do details on the side i pickup a lot of jobs working at a body shop....personaly i use an industrial degreaser for my wheels and around the swingarm the pipe and undertail then follow up with hydrofloric acid once in a while ...not something id recomend... when i use acid i know il be polishing afterwards but thats why i do it it makes a great surface to polish....theres a company called eco tech that makes a bicycle chain degreaser thats pretty safe for almost everything on ur bike...the crackle powder coat dosent like much of anything except soap.....simple green isnt bad stuff for me its a little too light but i can fix whatever i screw up....i usualy keep degreasers off my plastics and i wax at least once a week but im a little nuts about that kinda stuff....i ride rain or shine living in washington i dont have a choice and my bike is almost allways showroom clean.
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