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Earwig
Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone know of a cheap/safe/DIY method of increasing the fuel capacity on an 2004 XB12S?
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Col_klink
Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Trade it on a 2006 XB12Ss?

Or consider one of those "saddlebag" tanks designed for dirt riders who go desert riding.

Klink
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Mrvvrroomm
Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, safe & DIY, but surely not cheap: trade it for an '06 XB12Ss (Long)
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Earwig
Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

heh... can't afford to trade it in yet... just bought it a few months ago : ) but thanks.
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Kdan
Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



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Bake
Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Get your wife to ride a sportster with the stock tank, you can plan your rides around gas stops, thats what we do.

My butt needs a break after 1 hr on the r!
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Metalstorm
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like Kdan's suggestion but you'd probably need the Ventura rack to carry it : )
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

IF you can find a welder certified in aluminum, you can probably pay to close up the hole in the frame for a couple hundred dollars but I'm always a tad suspicious about the heat "frying" the interior coating in the tank.

Still, I doubt it'd be less than $200 or so and you still have to tear down your bike to get them your bare frame.

(hardly seems worth the trouble)
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Buellin_ri
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder if you could cap off hole with a pre-made cap and some special epoxy. My worry would be drilling the holes in the cavity, no so much the drilling, but the metal files.
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You would need to close up the hole structurally. You'd be cutting out the tube that now closes the hole and just capping it with a bonded in patch while could work for just being fuel tight, wouldn't work for the stresses the frame might see.

It has to be considered a structural repair and you just can't get a good bond with the best of adhesives compared to a good weld.
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Dsergison
Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well, it doesn't HAVE to be structural, drill a few holes around in the tube top and bottom, cap the frame on both ends....

it will fill/drain with gas and not effect anything structurally

but you'll get what a whole quart?
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Exitlandrew
Posted on Saturday, July 15, 2006 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ive been thinking about that for a long time now. What about a reserve tank utilizing some of the space in the airbox? I havent really considered doing it, but thats really the only place you can put anything without it being too obtrusive. Its probably just easier to lay off the throttle for better mileage. But I dont think it would be worth it.
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Fullpower
Posted on Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

a quart of fuel would make it worth-while..... that would increase range by at least 12 miles. that is a long way to NOT have to push the bike. if i ever strip my frame down for other reason i will look into TIG welding up the cavity.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Guys, if I remember correctly, the difference in fuel capacity between an '05 and an '06 XB is .1 gallons (3.7 to 3.8 gallons). That ain't a quart, and it doesn't seem worth it to me. A quart would be .25 gallons.
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Snowhownd
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Carry a quart in your tail/tank bag and dump 'er in when you need it.
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Ted
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Modify one of those Beer-can hats to your helmet. Stylish AND practical !
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a camp fuel bottle I can carry in my tank bag that holds 32oz or so.
It is a nice little peace of mind since I can't walk, or push my bike very far.
There shouldn't too many places that I could get to that that reserve won't
get me out of. At least not in the midwest!
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Buellisti
Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use Brian's solution. Only, I carry four since things are far apart in West Texas. If you have a polished aluminum fetish, SIGG bottles polish up nicely.
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Snakedriver
Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Heres what I have been thinking about: An Aux. Tank that clips on the top of the air box. If any of you know what the range extender for a Bell Jet Ranger is, this is exactly what I want. Imagine a ridged tank bag with plumbing that leads into the fuel filler. Kinda like a camel back...A Buell Back if you will! I would think that a gallon extra would be do-able.
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Jasont
Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Snakedriver, I have been thinking of the same setup( oddly enough, I fly bell helicopters, th-67, oh-58c, oh-58d). I don't think it would be that hard to do, I used to be a metalworker before I became a pilot. Just havent had the time to make one yet.
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Buellisti
Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Snakedriver,

Look at a drag racing supply like Summit for the small fuel cells. I think there is like a one or two gallon cell that might actually fit into a large tank bag. With the right fittings and a modified fuel filler cap, you might be able to build something that won't turn you into a molotov cocktail.
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Starter
Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What about a camelpak??? Nah just kidding I too have a 1.5L Sigg bottle in my luggage for long trips. Never used it but damn it gives you a tonne of courage when it comes to pushing the extreme on the little yellow light mileage. Best I've got so far is 52.4km. Never had to push cause always got too scared and never put more than 12.5L in it.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Get the Buell delux tank bag and carry a 1+ red gallon can in it. It works great, way cheaper that fabbing side gerry cans. and functional so that when you are not carrying the gas you have extra storage. Or just get the New TT with a 4.4 gallon tank
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Fullpower
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have seen that specification of 4.4 gallons, but have wondered what the actual USABLE fuel capacity is. any one know first hand how much fuel can be USED from a single filling?
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Edstevens
Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Earwig

I have looked for an extra fuel option for my 03 XB9SL. http://www.acerbis.com/p150_tank/11250006.html offers front fork tank in 0.8 and 1.3 gallon capacity and a rear mount tank of 1.6 gallon.
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