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Sgthigg
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I changed my oil lastnight...I rode it till good and hot. Drained as much as I could outof it..Then added exactly 2.5 quats including the filter oil.
Rode it for 35 mins pretty hard.
Rechecked the oil level..
And lo and behold my "proper" level is on the BOTTOM rung of my dip stick i mean the very bottom. not the add but below that one..?????

Yah I have been over full for a while because I used the dip stick "proper" level..
At least its straightened out now..

Anyone else have this same thing happen?
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 02:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pretty much the same here... Mine is usually about 1/4" above the bottom of the stick. I figure as long as there's some on there I'm good. One thing about these bikes is that if there's too much it'll just puke it out through the breathers. Not a good thing if you haven't routed them into a catch can though...
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Sgthigg
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 03:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep i bought the drummer catch can..
I always thought i had an oil consumption problem because I went off the dip stick. Wich is way better than really having oil consumption though..I can live with this

Now I wonder why my bike is at a lower level then the other bikes? i think its weird. Oh well she runs awesome.
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yup, 1st time I changed my oil I filled it to the upper level, like I do my car. Discovered later on that I had some good greasy patches in my air filter, and a nice layer of sludge on the bottom of the air box. Got that all cleaned up though....
~SM
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Old_man
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you checking the level of the oil while the bike is on the kick stand? This is the correct way, per the manual. At the 1000 mi. check the mechanic checked mine while holding the bike upright. Told me the oil was low. I informed him that it should be checked while on the stand. It was at the proper level, when checked properly.
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Perry
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After changing the oil the 2.5 quarts puts it right in the proper range for me.

I had a rather serious oil consumption problem for the first 2000 miles, then it went away completely. I believe there was a service bulletin issued about high consumption for the first couple thousand miles being normal...
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Jackbequick
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And in case some of you guys have not heard about it or figured it out yet, if you take advantage of the apparently "wasted" space to add a little extra oil to your tank, you put yourself at risk of blowing the filler plug out and venting oil all over the back of the bike.

The oil tank becomes pressurized at riding speeds and it appears that, if the free air space is replaced with oil, the pressure gets high enough to blow filler caps off and vent oil.

Another thing is that the oil level may appear low if the bike has been setting a while when it is checked. This is because oil can drain down from the tank into the engine sump. If you top up an apparently low tank it can turn into the overfilled tank described above when it is started and all the oil gets into the tank.

I check my oil first thing when I return from a ride and occasionally add a little oil then to bring it up to the point that an oil change did but no more than that.

Jack
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, May 24, 2006 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd never heard of that happening, although I can see how it could happen
with expansion of the oil if you've completely filled it up.

Thanks for the words of warning/wisdom JBQ
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Sgthigg
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I went off the stick and it always looked low...wich actually was the proper level.

Drain the oil when hot then add exactly what the manual calls for..2.5qts..Ride till hot(allowing it to expand) then recheck it.mark the stick..this is the proper level.

I got the idea form Buellistic...Im glad I tried it..
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Jhanz
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Being a new Bueller, I also had questions regarding the oil level and if there is any risk of damaging the engine if you ride when the oil level (hot check) is towards the bottom of the dipstick (below add line)? Two days ago, I did a hot check and the level was a little low. I added some oil, which turned out to be too much.
I then pumped a little oil out of the swingarm, then checked level again and it appeared to be ok. Yesterday morning, I went out for a short ride (about 10 min), when I checked the oil level it was below the add line, but still showing on the dipstick. Could this have caused any engine damage. In the manual it says that operating when oil level is below the add mark can cause engine damage. I added some oil and now when the bike is turned off it seems like the fan is running longer. I'm hoping that I'm worrying about nothing...I really love my bike and want to really take care of it, but I'm learning most of these things as I go. I'm also curious how much oil over-fill would cause oil to be vented into the airbox? Thanks!
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Diablobrian
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If there is oil on the dipstick you're just fine. No worries!
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Perry
Posted on Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Operating the engine when it is WAY below the add mark may cause engine damage. Remember, this is an oil tank and the oil pumps out of it to the engine. If there is no oil, or so little it can't cool properly and thus gets overheated and fried you could be in trouble.

If the tank is just a little lower than normal on the level you won't hurt anything.
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Tiburondriver47
Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If i leave mine in the middle. It usually stays there but if i fill it up it will always go back to the middle of the marks so thats where i leave it.
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Davo
Posted on Friday, May 26, 2006 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Covering two X's when hot. Checked leaning on the side stand.
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