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Jasonblue
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well guys I officially joined the club. As of last Monday I am the proud owner of a Midnight Black XB9s. So far I love the bike, every time I look at it I get goose bumps. Its just a BAD ASS lookin bike, no doubt about it.
What really sucks is tryin to keep it under 3000 RPM and 55 MPH for 500 miles! I have been pretty behaved although I did rip out one wheelie just to see how it felt.
So my question to all you veteran Beullers' is...What do I do to it first? I want some informed feedback. I know I want a different pipe. The growl it has now is ok, but I wanna piss off the neighbors. So fill me in, what works what doesn't. I feel like a little kid thats been let loose in Willy Wonkas' Chocolate Factory.
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Race kit
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Pilk
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 01:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

MILES!

Pilk
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 05:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree with Pilk.
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Bykergeek
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Priorities:
1. Miles. Lots of them.
2. Exhaust. I tried a Latus; damn fine muffler but too loud for me. It would be quite effective at pi$$ing off the neighbors. My Wileyco should arrive today :)
3. Find some more potential Buellers and bring them into the society for the advancement of Buellology.
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Newfie_Buell
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What do you add first?????


YOURSELF Go Ride it and enjoy your new toy.

Fill out your profile so we can see where ya are?


Another Snow Storm Here today
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Misato
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

take off the tea strainer! 8o)
and those stock mirrors gotta go
I'd wait for a dyno chart on the force before I picked exhaust

www.xb9s.com
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Roc
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gas, then maybe oil.
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Skully
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jasonblue,

At the 1,000 mile check up, install the Buell race ECM and K&N filter. Have the TPS reset at this time. That way you don't pay for it twice. We have sponsors that sell these items at a discount.

Here is my bike with the stock muffler and the above listed modifications:

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I personally would not use the Buell race muffler or the Latus unless hp is all you are after. They both have torque dips *below* the stock set up that is quite disappointing. See "Muffler testing at HD/Buell Cycle Center" thread.

I have purchased the D&D XB9 muffler for its fat midrange, the rpm zone where I normally ride. As soon as it arrives and I get it installed, I will post the dyno results here on the BadWeb.

The Force XB9 pipe will no doubt be the premier system. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

If you are looking for more performance, Nallin Racing has kits for the XB series that look to be pretty awesome.

Hope this helps,
Keith
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Psychobueller
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had the chance to hear a XB with the new D&D. Seriously awesome sound and great finish. Not sure what kind of hp/tq it makes, but it sure sounds sweet.
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Jasonblue
Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well I've been working on putting on the miles, I'm almost to 400 mls and I bought the bike last Monday. I planned on the race ECM and the air filter, but I haven't decided on an exhaust. I just don't care for the look of the Buell muffler. I'd rather it be black, thats why I do like the look of the D&D best. Has anyone else heard the D&D? How does it sound compared to the stock pipe?
I don't care for the mirrors either, think I'm gonna get the bar end mirrors. Has any one found something to protect the airbox (false tank) it seems to scratch easily. I'm gonna fill in my profile right after this. Thanx J
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Jasonblue
Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2003 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One other thing. How do those type of mods affect the warranty?
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Daves
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For protection of the air box you can either get the Buell guard or the Trojan Horse carbon fiber one. I have both in stock. I do a 10% discount of stuff ordered by Badweb members!

Ride to the edge!
Dave
HD/Buell Cycle Center
Waterloo Ia
dave@iowaharley.com
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Misato
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah, I think I need a tank- I mean air box protector, seems to scratch way too easy.
where do i order online?
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Rmckimmie
Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 06:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am considering a 2003 XB9S. They have not been in Australia for very long and I do not know anyone who has a Buell. So in terms of reliability, how has the XB9S been? Anything I need to know before I buy, or should I buy?
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 07:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The XB9S is proving to be a very reliable motorcycle. Take one for a test ride before buying one. Check that the bike you purchase, if you so choose, has the upgraded wheel bearings. Upgraded bearings have visible orange seals. The old superseded bearings have black seals. Other than that, just ride and enjoy.
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Aaron
Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 09:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't listen to him. You NEED to soup it up! You wouldn't believe how much fun these things are when you can do 3rd gear power wheelies. It's like riding a high powered feather.
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Prof_stack
Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Funny, Aaron!

Just ride the XB9S until its broken in. Get used to the handling (and braking in a corner :[ ) and the power delivery.

THEN decide if YOU need to soup it up. I'm having a heck of a lot of fun with my 9S in stock form.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and braking in a corner
brake beforethe corner...You'll be much happier for it...

I have the Buell race kit, and am very happy with it...although I feel a Nallinization is in order for this winter...
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Jasonblue
Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well I just hit the 1000 mile mark on my 9s. Rmckimmie- I had a problem with mine blowing fuses for a while, so I took it to the dealer and they found a short in the ignition switch. They fixed it, no charge, it was all covered under warranty. I had them replace the wheel bearings with the updated ones at that time also. Other than that no problems.

I am planning on taking my bike in for its 1000 mile check-up in the next couple of days. I was wondering if anybody could tell me exactly what that is going to consist of and what I should expect to pay. I'd like to be somewhat iformed before dealing with any shop, although the one I deal with seems to be ok so far.

One other question- how much difference would the race ECM and filter make with the stock exhaust. I was wondering if I should install the ECM and filter and then have the shop reset the TPS, or just wait until I'm ready to put the exhaust on as well..........J
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Darthane
Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jason,

Race ECM and Intake seems to make about 2-3 HP more, the exhaust is really needed to make the push to 5 or more (I'm sure it can be done, but not without carving something up).

As to service, if you don't already have it, get a service manual. You can do the vast majority of maintenance yourself with a little time and effort and save yourself a LOT of money and quite a few (in mine and many others' experience) headaches. 1000 miles is a bunch of 'check this, examine this', etc. bullshit and changing the oil and tranny fluid. Depending on the dealer, it should run you between $150-$225. Way too much, in other words.

Bryan
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Chainsaw
Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jasonblue:
I think one of the local dealers here has a price of $250 or $300 posted for the 1000 mile service. I would advise you to buy a service manual and a jack. Everything in the 1000 mile can be achieved with basic tools and the service manual (with the exception of Zeroing the TPS sensor, which Blake will be happy to explain to you in detail)
The back of your owners manual will tell you what is involved in the 1000 mile check up. Good luck!
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Captainplanet
Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My 1K service was 178.61. $125.00 of that was labor. I did the 2.5K service myself for a total of $20.56.
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Imonabuss
Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jasonblue,

What to add? Miles, lots of miles and nothing else!!!
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Rmckimmie
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 04:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Jasonblue… I would be very interested if anyone else has info on the reliability of the XB9S. I am horrified by the likes of web sites like www.mybuell.com. Anyone?
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 06:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rmckimmie,

Take websites like that with a grain of salt. Every company on the fae of the planet has a percentage of bad products. You think every Honda or Suzuki motorcycle ever made was 100% reliable. Absolutely not. Since Buells represent a small market share their problems tend to propagate quickly. Also bear in mind that the XB platform has virtually nothing in common with the old tube frames, which are the VAST majority of bikes that people have had problems with. Everyone on this board with a 9R or 9S certainly seems to love it to death - I know I do. As with anything, and I do mean anything, the negative comments alwys get remembered FAR more frequently and easily than the positive, no matter the ratio.

Just my two cents. Were it me, I'd get the 9S over the Ducati, but hey, being the owner of a 9R I'm biased.

Bryan
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Steveford
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Am approaching 2000 miles on the Firebolt and the only problem (which wasn't self inflicted)was a blown tail light bulb which was replaced with the one Harlee uses in their bikes.
The fittings to the oil cooler will become covered with mung unless you use a fair amount of pipe sealant on the male threads.
I went with a Storz steering damper, Lightning footpegs, race ECM/K&N with Wileyco cannister, Pegasus gut protector on the "tank", Chase Harper Stealth saddlebags, neoprene fork gaiters, Napoleon bar end mirror, carbon fiber frame protectors, Tommaselli grips w/ bar end weight, taller windscreen from Zero Gravity, billet dipstick and Mobil 1 V-Twin mixed with KG Engine Gard and Mobil 1 75W90 gear oil.
I replaced the wheel bearings and one of them was spitting out it's grease. Now have the new orange ones from Taiwan so they've got to be good!
The bike is VERY sensitive to suspension settings but the factory recommendations will get you real close.
Am still waiting for someone to come out with a real front fender to keep the crud off of the engine. Is anyone making one yet?
This is a wonderful motorcycle which gets better with miles.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Steveford & Bykergeek:
Can I get a review from you guys on the Wileyco pipe? I dig the way it looks, and I'm looking for a reason to buy or not to buy. Any comments pro or con?
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Jasonblue
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey thanx guys for the info on the service prices. Yeah I looked at what is needed to be done at a 1000 mls and pretty much came to the same conclusion. Hell instead of getting the service I can take the money and buy the front and rear stands for $99.00 and still come out ahead..........Thanx J.
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Darthane
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jason,

If you find a good front stand that will fit a 9R/9S, please let me know about it.

Thanks,
Bryan
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Court
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jason:

Look dude...you post here one more time this weekend I am gonna come bi**h slap you.

GO RIDE THE BUELL !~

:)

Court
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Steveford
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mr. Chainsaw,
As for the Wileyco, it's lightweight, reasonably priced, and it looks and sounds great. Loud but not obnoxiously so.
I'd forget the stock mounting instructions and go like so: remove the sidestand bolts and replace them with studs, slide the cannister on, pop up the sidestand and then use flat washers and nylock nuts.
Drain the oil, unscrew the oil lines and remove the stock rear muffler mount.
Fabricate a stout L-shaped bracket to slide into the rectangular Wileyco rear mount, drill and tap the bracket where the eye bolt goes and insert a nutted stud to affix the bracket to the cannister.
Drill a hole in the upward arm of the L bracket and affix that to the crankcase.
I also pitched the Buell Torca clamp and replaced it with a 2" Bright Stainless EasySeal exhaust clamp (part # J000210)which is made by a company named Donaldson. I understand that it's popular with truckers and is a really nice design although a bit on the ugly side. Figure that it's in keeping with the grand Buell tradition of producing the world's ugliest exhaust components!
The bike performs considerably better than it did with the race ECM, filter and stock muffler and it no longer smells like it's running way too rich at idle.
Sounds and looks a hell of a lot better as well.

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Jasonblue
Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Court, What can I say, if I'm not working I'm on my XB, and if I'm not on my XB I'm reading about em. Guess I have Buellithitus.
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