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Nsbuell
| Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 12:14 am: |
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The manual calls for 2 types of Loctite to be used on the bike...222 and 272. I can't seem to find any Loctite brand at any stores for some reason. My question is which is the permanent and which is the semi-permanent? I want to make sure I buy the correct equivalent in another brand. |
Skyguy
| Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 12:24 am: |
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If I remember right one is in a blue tube the other in a red tube. I do not remember off hand which one is which though. But hey, I figured if I post some kind of answer someone will jump out and correct me! |
Rr_eater
| Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 12:32 am: |
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RED= PERMANENT, or at least VERY hard to remove!! BLUE= good but not permanent, easier to remove the hardware. USE BLUE!!!!!!!!! your parts will thank you for it!!! I ONLY use red on engine/drivetrain components where massive vibration and oily environment agsist! |
Diablobrian
| Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 01:33 am: |
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there is another that I like to use as well. It is green and you use it on bolts you can't, or don't want to take apart. It is applied to the threads near the nut and it wicks up between the stud and nut. Good stuff. It falls somewhere near blue in permanence. Blue is your best friend when working on a Buell or H-D, but green has it's place too. |
Adrenaline_junkie
| Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 07:28 pm: |
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I don't have any RED here to get the number off of, but the GREEN wicking stuff is 290 and the BLUE semi-permanent is 242. |
Nsbuell
| Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 07:59 pm: |
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So what are the 222 and 272? |
Adrenaline_junkie
| Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 08:06 pm: |
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Wish I could answer that. Like I said, I've got a bottle of blue and a bottle of green setting in front of me and I pulled the numbers straight off the bottles. I'm guessing one of your numbers is RED, but I can't tell you which one. |
Crusty
| Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 08:20 pm: |
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Loctite 272 is red; and it's for items that require a lot of strength. Loctite 222 is purple and it's for smaller fasteners. If you use what the Service Manual tells you to use, your chances of creating future problems decreases a lot. Green 290 is good for fasteners that are already assembled, since it has wicking properties, but if you need real strength, try green 680. Just forget about ever taking whatever it is apart again. |
U4euh
| Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 08:23 pm: |
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Nsbuell, if you have an Autozone get the Permetex blue, medium duty. That is what you need. I believe the part # is 24200. Other parts stores should have it also. The company's who make the stuff usually use the same colors for the same grip strength. I know the AZ and Advance near me has all 3 colors in stock. |
Sweatmark
| Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 08:31 pm: |
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This mssg thread forced me to look: http://www.loctite.com/int_henkel/loctite_us/index.cfm?&pageid=19&layout=3 Was wondering about the manual's references myself. Recently bought generic threadlockers in blue and red, hoping the colors corresponded to XB maintenance specs. Now I know! Mark Oregon |
Nsbuell
| Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 08:33 pm: |
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Thanks U4euh, I've seen that brand but wasn't sure if it was equivalent. Is there anything that I really need to make sure I use red on? |
S2pengy
| Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 09:59 pm: |
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In the 200 series the higher the number the higher the strength |
Jackbequick
| Posted on Friday, March 17, 2006 - 10:02 pm: |
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NsBuell - The SM for my M2 is real good on specifying the whether to use the red or the blue. Some of the places for red that come to mind from recent work are the crank wheel and clutch hub nuts, the brake caliper mounting bolts, brake rotor mounting bolts, rear belt pulley bolts, and the front axle nut. On anything that calls for red I usually take the trouble to clean all the residue off from the last application and also clean and degrease the threads. It is sort of bizarre, but if you buy LocTite red and blue in the small tubes (the best choice for most of us), the red locker comes in a blue tube and the blue locker comes in a red tube. Also that stuff is an anaerobic adhesive, it hardens in the absence of air or oxygen. So don't ever "burp" the excess air out of the tube when you put the cap on. The house brands of red and blue locker sold at many of the major chain auto parts stores is made by LocTite and is half the price. Jack |
Starter
| Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 08:31 pm: |
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One size fits all Loctite 242 Nut Lock. Use it on anything I don't want coming apart. Bit overkill forr 222 and underkill for 272 but has never let me down. Besides most of the shops here only carry a very select few and 242 is always available. |