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Bigbuell
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well how are you guys doing. Newbie to your forum and I have a few question about exhaust for my XB12Ss. Also may I say what a great forum you guys have before I start my question. OK, I just bought my XB12Ss about 2 1\2 weeks ago now and have a itch to put on a new exhaust now, the problem is that the stock muffler sounds so puffy. I want something that will sound good and throaty but not raspy. I also want better performance as well. I hear good things about the drummer, what are your thoughts on this, help me make up my mind so I can spend more money on this great bike. Also one more thing is a XB9S exhaust the same as a XB12S exhaust, of course be sides the value in the muffler.
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Vaneo1
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh Boy...Did you open a can of worms. Run before it starts!!!
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Perry
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The XB12 exhaust has an actuated valve to increase low-end torque. The 9 does not have the valve.

You can read a full, thorough, exhaustive, complete, extreme, and totally round and round raging debate about different exhausts by simply doing a search of this board. The dead horse has been beaten so much that there is probably not enough of it left for a DNA sample to verify the species.
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Yeags30
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

see how fast this thread ends up archived

depends on how much you want to spend

depends on how much sound you want

depends on what finish you want

I run a D&D and love it.....its loud(i need ear plugs on long rides: ) )

I've heard great things about the drummer too
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Smoothsax
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just put on the Drummer SS. The sound is amazing. The performance is amazing, and Kevin is a great guy to deal with. Highly recommended.
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Buellin_ri
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Race pipe, loud but not to loud.
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Vaneo1
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love my Buell Performance Pipe, its throaty but not Harley Loud-like that high pitched cracking sound you can hear three blocks away...
BTW I see there are a few different opinions soooooooooo................................

ITS STARTED!!
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Dana P.
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pick a pipe that fits your budget and you like. There all good choices.I have a D&D. Little louder then the rest but I like it.



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No_rice
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the d&d's sound mean, really loud. Dana went for the blingier(is that even a word lol) version. i got the black anti bling one!
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Dana P.
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tim just had it jet coated. Got it back today. Looks good,D&D should offer it this way as well but...... they don't.
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Vaneo1
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that pipe does look bad ass.
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Easinc
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Read all the threads (and like Perry said, there’s a lot of info here) look at all the dyno charts, and go to an event that you know will be attended by a whole lot of fellow Buellers. Then you can hear them all! That’s what did it for me. I went to the Liberty sponsored Buell Demo day last fall in New Jersey. I was able to hear the Buell Race can, a D&D, regular Drummer, Drummer SS, Special Ops, and a Jardine. After hearing all those, it was easy for me to make up my mind....
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No_rice
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it does look sharp dana. think mine will stay black for now though even though i like yours. plus the black will probably hold up better to my flame throwers
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Dana P.
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Flame throwers???
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No_rice
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hehehehe. knew thatd get a rise out of ya! im working on some ideas at the moment, havent figured everything out yet though. nitrous and a set of flame throwers. sounds like a good idea to me!!
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Dana P.
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm listening??? lol
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Bigbuell
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WOW! I didn't think that I would have this kinda response. I would love to hear them on the bike, but the problem that I have is that I live in Central California, right by Fresno, there is not a hole lot of Buell bikes in the area that I know of. Anyway thanks for all the input. Should I contact someone at Drummer and talk to them about what I should do. I really like the way the econo drummer looks. Does anyone have one of these pipes and how does it sound. The D&D looks sweet, but I heard that its real loud, I sure would like to hear that one too. Anyway lets keep it rolling.
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No_rice
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

not really trying to hijack the thread...

i am assuming the little bit of baffle that is in the d&d's is all metal and no packing in it. do you happen to know for sure?

main problem is the size of the plugs that you are supposed to use to ignite everything. i dont like the idea of those huge things being right where everyone can see them. trying to figure that out before i start rounding up stuff. need a skinny long plug that would be able to reach most the way to the center, but still has a really big spark. and then ofcourse wether i am going to inject it with extra fuel or not
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Buelldyno_guy
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We will know in a month or so, but I think that the Micron has mapped out to the best SAE RWHP numbers for a stock XB12? ... Terry
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Daves
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 04:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree, we got the best numbers from the Micron as well with the Direct Link mapping.
My techs will be mapping a 12 with a Drummer next week so we'll see what we can do with it.
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Dbf
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 05:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Big, I have an Ss as well and I just went with a drummer original, Race ECM and k&n filter. Amazing gains from idle to limiter and the exhaust tone is 100 times better than the stocker, I highly recommended this set up. I doubt if you will be disappointed. The drummer is a great pipe, as others on the board will certainly agree. It all depends on how much you are willing to spend.

Dan
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Typeone
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My techs will be mapping a 12 with a Drummer next week so we'll see what we can do with it.

oooh, thats great news! which Drummer will you guys run/map? please say the regular, my stock ECM is dying to make a plane trip somewhere ;)
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Madsx
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Theres a sound clip of my regular Drummer here: http://homepage.mac.com/barnb/BuellDownload.htm

The site is fairly new so let me know if any thing doesnt work properly
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Tommy_k
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Shawn,

This is important too. Most aftermarket exhausts, with the exception of the Spec. Ops pipe and econo Drummer, eliminate the interactive valve. That plus the fact that you'll be flowing a lot more air means you'll need at least a Buell race ecm, or better yet, get your stock ecm tuned by Direct Link for more fuel and just run a valve emulator. Add a hi flow air filter and you'll be very happy.
TK
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Buellrcr
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

go with the micron .its got great power
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Bigbuell
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 02:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK Guys, I went with the D&D. I bought it from a fellow Bueller. He made me a killer deal that I can't refuse. If its to loud for me I'll try to install a cone silencer in side the main head pipe, we use them in drag racing to lower the DB but not the performance. Now I need to get the filter and the ECM then have the TPS set. What other mods can I do to improve the performance to the bike. Thanks for the input, keep it coming.
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