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Dschley
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Got an 03xb lightning. Went to local dealer and sat on a new one and noticed my feet were'nt on the ground flat like mine. How can you tell if it is a low. Thanks!
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Xb9ser
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The easyest way to tell is a low has a yellow spring on the rear shock.
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Brad_buell
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Xb9ser is right!

Yellow Spring = Low Suspension
Blue Spring = Regular Suspension
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Kdan
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 01:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The other difference might be the seat. If you sat on a CityX, the seat is significantly higher than your 03XB. You didn't say if it was a 12 or a 9.
I have an 03XB9S and swapped seats for a Cityx seat and there is a big difference.
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Sgthigg
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 01:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My xb12SCG spring is Blue. I dunno, its pretty darn low just ask my foot pegs..
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Yeags30
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

an 03 will have the yellow rear spring and look at your seat u can see a noticeable difference compared to the other seats....if your seat hurts your butt then chances are its a low
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if your seat hurts your butt then chances are its a low

Amen to that!!

I can ride the twisties all day when I'm moving around on the bike. But, riding in a straight line, sitting still.....
50 miles and I gotta' take a break. It's like a concrete park bench.

Sgthigg: Is that your bike in your profile??? Looks like a yellow spring shinin' there under the seat to me??
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Aldaytona
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Muffler is closer to the ground?
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Metalstorm
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yellow rear shock spring & you can tell from the forks too. When the bike's sitting on it's kick stand, you'll notice that the dust seal on standard forks is about an inch or so above the top fender screw where as the seal on the low forks is about even with the top fender screw.
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Angelwild327
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have an 05 scg, definitely the yellow rear spring is the easiest giveaway that it's a low or scg...the true scg will also come with a low seat... if you have a blue spring, then it's not really a standard scg anymore.
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Sgthigg
Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yah definetly a yellow spring . Brain fart...lol
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Rageonthedl
Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you could also look at the side stand, a low will have the part that you use to "kick" it down almost at bottom of the stand, the regular will be up like an inch or so.
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Cochise
Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Also, if you sit on one and your feet touch, but sit on the other and they don't... : D
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Also, if you sit on one and your feet touch, but sit on the other and they don't...

That's funny. Thats how I bought my bike.

me: Mind if I try the yellow one out for size?

salesman: No, go right ahead.

me: Wow, I didn't think I would be able to reach the ground so well.

salesman: Me either!?

me: Mind if I try the black one too.

salesman: Help yourself.

me: This ones just a little tall for me, do you have a Low model here.

salesman:Let me check the computer......
The yellow one is a Low.

me:I'll take it......can you finance it for me?
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Sub65chris
Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

has anybody changed from a "regular " to a low . and how much was it , does it ride differently , was it worth it ? to many thoughts at once sorry.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I believe there's been a few people who have swapped their low suspension for regular & vice versa. It's been a long while since I rode a regular S but if memory serves, My 12Scg seems to handle just the same as a regular 9S that I rode a few years back. The only time I ever think about swapping to the standard height is when I'm on one of the two really bumpy, cracked, potholed asphalt/concrete hybrid roads that i travel. I honestly don't know if an extra inch of suspension travel would make all that big a difference. On all the other roads that I ride however, I wouldn't trade my Scg for anything. I might have to upgrade to Firebolt pegs cause I'm starting to wear out my boots from scraping! I'd be doing the same with a regular S as well cause the lean angle is the same between the two when their suppensions' fully compressed.
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Tank_bueller
Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree with Metalstorm..
My bike only bottoms out on the worst of nasty bumps. With the proper suspension setup, It's awesome!

I don't have a choice, though,...short legs.
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Tq_freak
Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

while we are talking about suspensions, is anyone using the RED performance spring that is listed on buells site? Just wondering if it makes a difference. im guessing if it really did there would be a lot of people with it
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Blazinc5
Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 03:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A female friend of mine today seen my new bike at my step sons birthday party and seems to really like the style of my firebolt, but like quite a few females she is a lil bit short legged.. I have no dout she could handle a 9R but does anyone know about switching out stock firebolt springs for lightning low springs so that she would be able to get a lil more than tippy-toes on the ground?
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Smoothrod
Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The low seat plus a suspension adjustment might work for her. My wife is only 5ft2 and it worked for her on a regular 9.
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Blazinc5
Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

don't believe they make a "low" seat for the R models...
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Blublak
Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't think there is a 'low' seat for the 'R's. After all, the R is more of a slab then a cushion. There are 'low' seats for Blast, Lightning and Uly that I know of..
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Metalstorm
Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I had an R & wanted it shorter I would just straight out buy new Scg forks rather than fuss around with the springs & valving. The rear shock would definitely have to be bought whole. Or find some one with a 9SL or 12Scg who wants to trade parts. If it's an 05 or newer R, the bottom triple would have to be replaced to fit the 41mm cg forks.
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Sweatmark
Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Agree with Metalstorm, simplest means of changing ride height is the full suspension swap: forks (plus lower triple, if necessary*), rear shock/spring, and sidestand. Did this on my bike, with swap of Low/cg pieces for '05 regular height, which included lower triple clamp due to fork diameter difference (41mm to 43mm).


Low/cg and Regular comparison


Pic shows Low/cg and regular height components side-by-side. Spring on regular rear shock was powdercoated (for sale if someon wants it). Note differences in fork slider and rear shock lengths.

Swap isn't too difficult with front & rear stands, or bike suspended from rafters.

Mark
Oregon
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Shortie
Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hello Buellers.

New owner of an XB9SX here. 5'6" and running a low seat on it.

Still a bit on tip toes unless I have chunky soled boots on but in part I think this is due to the wide front section to the seat. The usual SX skyscraper seat means putting even one foot down is risky.

I wonder if it would be worth running the SCG suspension and fitting the select or SX seat back on for comfort? I wonder how the shorter suspension would cope with poor road surfaces though.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sweatmark, Thank you for mentioning the kick stand. I always forget that small but oh so important part : )

Shortie, A standard height S with a low seat & a low S with a standard seat are pretty close to the same seat height. I'd say somewhere in the ballpark of 29" to 29.5"
low bike with low seat is about 28.5
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Rocket_fuell
Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am 6'2 and went with the low model because I like that slammed profile it has. The handling between the two models are the same and I personally like flat foot characteristics of the bike at a red light.
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Shortie
Posted on Monday, March 20, 2006 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks metalstorm that's useful to know. I'll keep my eye out to see if I can try an Scg version somewhere. Not sure if there are any in the UK though.

Something I noticed trying the SX seat and Low seat on the same bike is that the low seat cramps your legs up a bit in comparison. So although touching the ground is easier. Hoiking your feet onto the pegs isn't so easy.
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