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Jstrain
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been lurking here for a while, and wanting to buy an XB for alot longer than that. I'm selling my Sprint RS to help a friend out, and I'm hoping to replace it with either an 03 Speed Triple or an 04 XB9SL. If I don't do something, I'm stuck riding my wife's Ninja 250. It doesn't do a whole lot to move my 230lb self around in an exciting fashion.

I found this 04 with about 4k miles for $6200. A bit below blue book. Does this sound too good? Anything particular to look out for? Being an 04, the belt and bearings should be in order. How does the factory warranty work if I buy used? Anything else you think is relevant, I'm all ears.

(Message edited by jstrain on March 07, 2006)
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Toona
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Buell666
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have an 03 xb9r with 3300 miles for $5200 or best offer. let me know if your interested.
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Superbee24
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Heck no that's not a good deal. I have a 2005 CityX with Extended warranty Thru December 2008 and full race kit in the classifieds for $ 6,500 and only 3800 miles

superbee
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Peanut_man
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mmm.. well, the book value of the Buells goes down pretty quickly w/ milage / age. So the price is not a big surprise there. I got my (stock) 04 XB12S w/ 4800 miles for $5700.
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1stbuell
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just got my '05 XB12R 1800 miles, 1yr warranty left, D&D exhaust and race ECM for $7000
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 05:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>, the book value of the Buells goes down pretty quickly w/ milage / age.

Pretty much true of most vehicles. Try selling a 3 year old Mercedes-Benz SL55. Folks want new.

One of the reasons I keep my old Ford F-250 (even with the killer deals on new ones) is that I bought it new, have had Mobil 1 in it every 3,000 miles for all 165,000. It's in great shape and worth only about $3,000 if I were to sell it.

You can see that the "buy a new one for $41K or keep the old" is an easy choice.

Court (buy cars for transportation - buy guitars for investments)
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Skyguy
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bought my 03 XB9R for 5,700 almost two years ago with 2,000 miles on it and a sweet custom paint job.

I will never buy a Buell new. for that matter I don't buy any vehicles new. Tremendous waste of cash.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know about that.

I'm VERY particular about my motorcycles. They must be broken in a certin way, maintained to my standards (which are higher than the manual), and not abused. There is little room for mechnical failure when navigating a twisty road.

A used car...yes....I buy my cars used. A used bike...well, I'd rather pay more for it and have what I want. I've bought two used bikes. Both needed work done to them. Granted, one was an antique that I sold for more than I paid for it (of course, I still probably lost money in the amount of work I put into it).

If you buy a $12,000 bike, and two years later it's worth $6000, that's a $6000 loss. It's like paying $250/month to rent the bike. Gotta pay to play.

Now...if you buy a $35,000 car, and sell it two years later, you'll probably get $20,000 for it. That's a $650/mo hit. That's a lot of cash. A good example of this is my 2003 Ford Explorer I bought last year. It was two years old, had 18k miles on it, a V8, 4 wheel drive, and a trailer towing package. MSRP on the truck new was $34,000. I bought it for $19,000. That's a $15,000 hit in two years. You'll never take that sort of loss on a bike unless you're buying some awfully expensive bikes.

Bikes are toys, and they cost money. Never pay MSRP however. EVER!! NEVER! That's a rip off. I bought my Ulysses for $9995 (MSRP is $11,495). That's $1,500 of my depreciation already absorbed, I got a new bike, broke it in properly, and have maintained it to my standards. I know the bike. I've put every mile but 2 on it.
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1stbuell
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I've put every mile but 2 on it."

Yeah, but everyone knows that the first 2 miles on the bike are THE most important for break-in.
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Peanut_man
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think I ment to say that Buell depreciates much quicker than, say, Jap bikes of similar cost and age / milage. Of course, most common things you used depreciates at certain rate. Just which one goes faster than which.

I do understand that some people care much more for their bike and everything has to be perfect there. Which is fine, if they can afford it. For me, if I can get a low-milage modern bike at practically half the original cost and the bike checked out fine, I'm good with that. If I have to put in so much $ into this hobby that I love, it might just be impossible for me to afford and I may have to give it up. I'd rather have 99% perfect bike than having to give up riding Buell just because I can't afford a brand-new $10k(+) bike.

As for comparison between car and bike it probably, IMHO, make more sense to either compare in term of percentage not direct $ value or maybe even $/mile.

From the example above, in 2 years the $12k bike losts 50% of its value compare to approx 43% for the car. Which to me seems the car is doing better. Also, on average, most people who have bikes as toy will probably put only 4000-6000 miles on that bike (if not less) in the 2 years compare to a car which most likely will likely get 24000 miles on that 2 years. Getting cost / miles may makes a bit more sense then too. (upto $0.66~$1/mile for the bike and $0.63/mile for the car).

Not counting maint. costs, at the end, I believe you'll still pay more for bike per unit of utilization. But hey, it also gives you way more pleasure / mile. Right?



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Bikoman
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just bought a leftover 03 XB9R for $6,500 out the door. I probably could of bought a used bike with a couple thousand miles on it for ~5,500, but then add sales tax 330 and fees, you are right at about 6,000. I was very happy to pay an extra $500 to break in my own bike. Overall, I am happy with my purchase and in the end that is all that matters.

John
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Bcordb3
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got a new bike, broke it in properly, and have maintained it to my standards. I know the bike. I've put every mile but 2 on it.

That is the key, I think that is worth the extra monies used on a purchase, especially on a performance machine.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i bought my new 2004 xb12r (had 4 miles on it) just as the 2005 models were being offered. had to drive to Edison H.D./Buell in N.J. for the bike, but got a steal on it for only $7,800 out the door. there are good deals out there if you are willing to look for them.

(Message edited by firebolteric_ma on March 09, 2006)
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