G oog le BadWeB | Login/out | Topics | Search | Custodians | Register | Edit Profile


Buell Motorcycle Forum » XBoard » Buell XBoard Archives » IAT Sensor location and relocation.... « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Speedfreaks101
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have been looking at old topics about IAT sensor location and I have yet to find an answer to my question.

When installing some type of heat barrier why do some of you relocate the IAT sensor below the barrier?
IAT= Intake air temperature so why would you not want the ECM to be able to recognize the correct air temp.

Also why would this be so different from a stock setup?

Thanks,
Bart
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Buellin_ri
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't know why you wouldn't want the ECM to know the correct intake temp. I would put it where it belongs.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Odie
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want to say I read that someone in Europe had gotten better esults with it BELOW the barrier in the heat.........
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Odie
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want to say I read that someone in Europe had gotten better results with it BELOW the barrier in the heat.........
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Pupu
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i did something like that on a car and it ran worse, i thought that it needed the air temp in order to adjust the A/F ratio, and if you fool it, you might run rich or lean, but i am by no means an expert, but if it thought the air was hotter than it really was, i would think it would run a little lean, therefor giving you more power.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Blazinc5
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 05:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hot air is not as dence as cold air,,, so hot air = less oxygen able to get into the engine in the same hole at the same flow rate... I am quite sure that if your sensor is getting the hotter air, it says it need less fuel in the mix to keep the air/fuel ratio correct. Putting that sensor in the heat would cause a lean condition.. Bad ju-ju ya'll
Devin
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Sparky
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think it would be beneficial to mount the IAT sensor in a material that would transmit less heat energy than the rubber grommet that is currently used. The idea here is that ambient hot air spewing off the heads HAS to be heating the bottom of the airbox and the grommet that holds the IAT. It follows that the hot grommet COULD be heating the lead wires of the IAT, thus influencing its calibration the wrong way.

Anybody know what kind of material might transmit less heat than the rubber grommet? And don't say asbestos.: (

Sparky
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

M1combat
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But that's the system the ECM was designed around. It's already taken into effect.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Isham
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Toilette paper card board doesn't transmit much heat. Ditch the rubber and put card board around it. Yeah!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Buellin_ri
Posted on Monday, February 27, 2006 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't mess with it.....
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Trenchtractor
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 02:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That set-up was used with the hillbilly motors FAST intake system. On the dyno they had better performance with the IAT sensor under the heat matt.

Bear in mind they were using a different intake design, so it's possible the difference in IAT sensor reading was compensating the A/F curve to suit their intake design better. A type of remapping??
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Voltage_vector
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bad Ju-ju...
« Previous Next »

Add Your Message Here
Post:
Bold text Italics Underline Create a hyperlink Insert a clipart image

Username: Posting Information:
This is a private posting area. Only registered users and custodians may post messages here.
Password:
Options: Post as "Anonymous" (Valid reason required. Abusers will be exposed. If unsure, ask.)
Enable HTML code in message
Automatically activate URLs in message
Action:

Topics | Last Day | Tree View | Search | User List | Help/Instructions | Rules | Program Credits Administration