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Buellshyter
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I recall seeing some read and blue carbon fiber for the old tube bikes. Does anyone know of a source for the XB's?
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Trojan
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We used to make coloured carbon fibre with tinted gel coat. Unfortunately the guy who made it for us packed it in, so we stopped offering it. The problem with it was that you could never get two pieces to match absolutely identically because the colour depended on the thickness of the gel coat applied. A fraction too much or too less and you got a different shade.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





Made for a guy on here named Roc
Apparently they were assholes about it and kept his moulds.
He was selling the blue on ebay a while ago dunno if he still has it or any.
He could probably point you in he right direction tho.
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Buellshyter
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think I saw that on eBay awhile ago but it came from like Taiwan - way overseas somewhere and I didn't really trust the source.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Same people I THINK.
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Roc
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had that stuff made and I had big problems with the company that made it. The yellow tail section is the only piece I didn't get.

The color is Kevlar.
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Wahmbush
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

wow....that is some nice stuff....
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Skyguy
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have never bought a lottery ticket but seeing all that carbon I just might start............

I have to many toys to afford the carbon game. Unless of course I can get the free flight bug into Al lighton or the boys at Trojan..............
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Firemanjim
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check with Art at Vallejo Buell,they had colored CF connection at one time---
707 643-1413
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Buellshyter
Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did anyone check with Art? I hate to call and ask the same question if someone already has.
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 07:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That stuff looks really good. I might actually think about buying a set of that if it were available.
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Paulson
Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those colored airbox covers are sweet! Did they have a colored chin fairing too (maybe a flyscreen even)? I WAS thinking about translucid red, but now I would rather have those on my Lightning. Here's to hoping.
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's possible to lacquer carbon fiber. It's also possible to tint lacquer any colour you choose, still leaving the carbon fiber showing.

Rocket
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Black_sunshine
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 06:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket....I wouldn't think so. You can clear coat it but any kinda tint would just cover up the weave. IMO.

The color would have to be in the weave of the cloth and you would need to use a clear resin.
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Rocketman
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well I talked about this very subject just three days ago with my painter friend. He's a very highly qualified (tech and chemistry wise if that makes sense) and highly skilled painter in the automotive world, and he tells me it's entirely possible to tint lacquer so as when you apply it to carbon fiber it appears the cf is coloured.

I'll let you know if I end up down this road with my own carbon, as that's why we were discussing it in the first place. If so, I'll put up the pic's.

Rocket
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Dana P.
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah but Sean when do we see that S1 done?? Sheesh !!!!
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The dyed kevlar (or other synthetic) and carbon are co-woven. Those are commercially available here in the States and in Britain and France.

I'll see if I can lookup the manufacturers (there are more than one)

We have a guy at work making some pretty trick bicycle parts. Problem is going to be buying small quantities - a full roll is a few thousand bucks.
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Found them. http://www.cstsales.com/

Hybrid fabrics at:

http://www.cstsales.com/carbon_fiber.html#493

You can get red/carbon and blue/carbon. The natural kevlar/carbon doesn't look as pretty.

These guys are a sales outlet, NOT a manufacturer. Don't know where you'd have to go for this stuff in Europe (not going to get to my info til tomorrow)

Composite Structures Technology - they're good folks and sell cut lengths. All types of fibers/fabrics/resins and tools.

Per yard price will give you a sense of why freaking graphite parts cost so much - and this is with wet layup stuff, not the pre-impregnated/autoclaved stuff like Al sells.

(Message edited by slaughter on March 02, 2006)
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Fginn
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PPG automotive paint makes dyes for candy colors called dmx. You could tint any clearcoat, it would stay transparent, but with color. You would still see the weave just fine.
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Roc
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The above photos are of pieces made from hybrid fabric like slaughter is talking about and it was all done wet layup.
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

By the way - the links I posted are to a reputable bunch of folks that I know and deal with because they are local to me. They are NOT the only group selling this stuff - but they do sell cut pieces.

I bet that there are a few dozen retailers selling the stuff - all will be pretty similar in price.
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