| Author | Message | ||
     Blazinc5 |
Hey all, I just picked up my 05 12R with the race kit installed... OH MY GOD I love it. But on my first ride round town and on the back roads I noticed a few things that perked my curiosity. Where as I don't know a whole lot on the accual mechanics of the bike yet, and I haven't bought the service manual, I figured I would start here.. Rite off when I was buying the bike, I noticed the throttle had a little to much play. so I tighted it up some better,, I think. The clutch didn't like to disengage putting her into gear,, Ok Well it is about 25 deg. thinkin gear oil is a lil thick... May need adj... Now today, got her new plates Insurance and registration.. Woohoo,, totaly leagal and officialy MINE... So I procceded on a longer ride. We'll call it a second date...  As so,,, warming the engine up, I noticed that the idle would go up a lil then down a lil almost making me think the plug was fouling.. well brought up the rpm a lil for a few seconds at bout 2K, no hesitation and sounds good idle back to fine.. Riding it felt like the engine was bucking a bit rpms at about 2-4K smoothed out as went higher in rpm. Stabbing the gas not a bit of hesitation, Felt real good and Strong.. is that normal? procceded to out of town on my favorite twisty. It's cold out bout 35 maybe 40 deg. took it easy not beeing used to the bike... found the suspention is out of wack big time from previous owner. Definatly need a stearing stabilizer.. Recomendations??? stoped at an intersection to head on home and idle speed is suddenly at 2K.... that's weird.. can't be rite... got home.. adjusted the idle back down to where it's suposed to be according to the owners manual... But now I figure that when I next start it cold it will not want to run on it's own till warmed up to that level again. Anyone experience that??? So I turned it around to park it in my garage and felt the need to be crazy. Pulled my first stoppie... Wow,,, that was easier than I thought.. oops... What a great bike,,, Love it love it love it... Just gotta work some small demonds out of her...  Devin 05 XB12R W/kit 86 Fazer fzx700 | ||
| M1combat |
Well... The surging could be he idle set too high (as also evidenced by the high idle once warmed up). It sounds like they set the idle when it was too cold. I'd run it for a one hour ride then set the idle when you know it damn good and hot. I like to set mine JUST above 1000 in the winter and about 850 in the summer. I don't recommend that anyone set their idle that low though  . I just like the way it sounds and as long as you don't whack the throttle open from idle it's just fine (other than the "starving the top end for oil thing)... The surge could also be from a slightly mis-tuned TPS setting, but that's less likely IMO... Set the idle with the bike very warm, then ride it at 3500 RPM in fifth for a while (five minutes or so) to let the AFV settle and see if it still does it. The bike "shouldn't" need a steering damper. Set the suspension by the book for your weight and make sure your tires have the right pressure. The bolts are pretty sensitive to tire pressure. I run Metzeler M1's (will be M3's next) and I run 34F/35-36R. I've found that as the front pressure starts dropping it starts to act like it might need a damper. What kind of tires are on it? Also... Don't blip the throttle until it's warm. | ||
| Olinxb12r |
Some people have dampners, but most don't on the XB. Have your dealership tune your suspension to fit you and check to make sure everything on the front end is tightened to spec. With the jumpy idle I think you might need your dealership to reset your TPS and idle. Either that or it is just the cold messing with the bike. As for the twichy feeling in the lower RPMs it might just be that the bike wasn't all the way warmed up, or something you'll just get used to. I don't know what you switched to the Buell from, but I had the same feeling after switching from my Yamaha. It may just be the rumbling pushrod V-twin powerplant and your not being used to it. With the clutch you probably nailed it, but you might put some clutch lube in the cable and see if that helps at all. It may just be that your cable is dry and it doesn't feel right because of it. I think that is about everything. | ||
| Olinxb12r |
First mod, get rid of the Dunlops if they are still on there! That will help the feel of the bike a lot! I got some Conti Force's or something like that for $200 for the set off of the internet search around, but don't buy them from the dealership because my first rear tire was $250 by itself from the dealer. | ||
| Sgthigg |
Congrats on the bike! I have a 12 05s. Alot of the same stuff, steering dampner, you probaly wont need one if your suspension is set up right. My idle is figidty too sometimes, I think I have isolated it down to either a tps or just plain crappy gas. I would run a full good quality tank of gas through her and then see if its as finicky at idle. I noticed if I buy gas on base for the "discount price" lol, the bike idles like crap. Just some suggestions, enjoy! | ||
| Yeags30 |
i would check the front tire and see if the psi is right and if its cupped...Then check to see if the steer head is loose...my bike shakes when i apply the front break...my new tire solved some of it but i'm going to re-torque the head...as for the idle....my bike does not like the cold...if its good and warmed up its fine but when i first start it on a cold day it can be a little irratic | ||
| Blazinc5 |
Well. I waited about an hour or so before I headed into work and yup the idle is now to low for it to keep running on it's own. I feel it is the cold so I may just carry the allen wrench with me. no biggy. Bad gas yeah could be I only got 1 gallon into it when I headed out for my ride today. who knows when the guy parked it for the winter.... and yeah the stock 208's are still on it gunna need new soon though. it only has 2760 miles on her and I payed 7500, Nice huh. so tires ain't worrying me. nor a tps reset. as for the bike I am coming off of it is a Yamaha fazer 700. the baby V-max. inline 4. Devin | ||
| Yeags30 |
run your hand over the tire to see if its cupped...also check the psi!! | ||
| Blazinc5 |
Ok, went through the supention setting from the owners manual. Wow,,, they were off dampening and compretion was to high and pre load was to low. I put them to the books spec. for my weight and since its cold out I backed the comp. and rebound screws out another half turn. it is only 35 deg here rite now.. do ya think I backed them out to much for the cold? Tires no cupping, presure f/26 r/30 put them to F/35 R/38. Will give that a try for handleing. Wish it would warm up round here.. be much nicer. lol Devin | ||
| M1combat |
26/30... Yikes. I would try about 34/36 F/R I find that with my weight it likes the rear two pounds higher than the front. I'm 200Lbs. You may end up with something a little different. I run Metz M1's too... | ||
| Blazinc5 |
The suspention seems to be much better now, specialy since the tires are at the correct pressure now. Talking with the tech's at the local dealer, they said it was prolly the TPS needing reset. Possibly a mapping issue or possibly a leak in the intake... So now my next feat is to figure out when I will have time to git the bike down there... Come on warm sunny weather.... Devin |
