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     Mr_cuell |
Was looking through the archives for info on Hals sliders and I see some here have them - what did you pay for the welding portion of the job? Seems particularly sketchy to weld on/near an XB frame - how does the process work? (Message edited by Mr_cuell on January 18, 2006) | ||
| Dana P. |
Strip your bike down and send the frame only to Hal's and your talk'n the labor involved in welding and there slider kit. I spoke to Terry at Hal's about doing my bike. $1300 If I brought him the whole bike Figure 1/2 that if you send the frame. | ||
| Mr_cuell |
Guess I'll just have to keep it rubber side down - nest model should have bungs from factory - | ||
| Halsracing |
Mr cuell, We just happened to come across your question/posting at the shop here, and I'd like to clarify what the cost would be. If you brought me just the frame, parts and labor would cost you about $300.00. Terry may have shot from the hip by quoting about half of 1300. The 1300 dollars would be if we had to totally disassemble your bike down to the bare frame, weld on the sliders, repaint the frame, and reassemble the bike. If you have any further questions, please give Sam a call at the Speed Shop. Direct line number is 262-814-7282 or toll free at 800-966-4443. Thanks!! Hal's Speed Shop | ||
| Dana P. |
Thanks for clarifying the price for us.It wasn't Terry shooting from the Hip Sam,it was me. I just remember the grand total if I brought you the bike. Terry gave me the break down of doing just the frame but I just couldn't remember. Thanks again and good luck this year. | ||
| Vonsliek |
i was gonna say .. a little bit of GTAW/tig ain't gonna be that much dinero .. holy crap .. thats abt 10 mins welding plus prep (inc. quick media blast to remove paint). welding fat alum is easy & very quick. | ||
| Kdan |
Mr Cuell, Vonsliek will do it for you for $20!  | ||
| Dana P. |
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| Xbolt12 |
Terry, What does Hals do about the coating inside the frame? Does it burn up partially during the welding process? Do you re-coat it? Just wondering because I thought I had heard something a couple of years ago about a bike DNFed in race because the fuel system clogged with stuff from the coating after adding sliders. The way I heard it was that Erik wasn't happy. Is this just urban legend? xbolt12 | ||
| Mr_cuell |
Adding stuff to a potential tall tale isn't smart on my part, but if Eric wasn;t happy, I hope he wasn't happy with himself. As a former racer himself he should have designed some sort of slider mount. Buell has contingency money so they are promoting racing, yet not making their bike easy to prep (spools is another example) It is not a new concept, and the frame is beautiful, expensive, and exposed. | ||
| Vonsliek |
thats an interesting point abt inside gas tank coating ... wonder what the dilly is w/ that? their powdercoated wheels are apparently a bad idea too .. too weak & impossible to straighten w.out further weakening not to mention matching trans powdercoat = next to impossible??!! i still love that buells have that crappy sidestand that lets the bike walk on breaking in peroid & hence dropping itself & f**king the frame .. as did w/ many of us! | ||
| Dana P. |
I also talked Terry about the Fuel tank liner. To what he has said there are nooks and cranny's in the frame that the cream couldn't reach anyways. The liner is nothing but a tank cream that can be reapplied. As far as the wheels and matching the powdercoating??? I don't know if you'd get a match if you found a powder coater that said they could but you can match it with paint no problem so it is not impossible. | ||
| Lucas70374 |
I have the frame sliders on my bike, I stripped my bike down and welded the frame sliders on locally. A race car builder, works with aluminum. Took him about 15 mins. All I done was put a fan/blower running through the frame to blow the fumes out for about 2-3 day. I didnt add water or anything to the frame. Worked fine. I also fixed a dent in my frame so it was more then welding the frame sliders. | ||
| Buelldyno_guy |
A word of caution about the weld on sliders. Ours were from Hal's and worked great on the pavement until the bike left the track and slider dug into the dirt. As it dug in, it tore off ripping the frame open and spilling gas. We still use them on the swing arm and axles, but will sacrifice the body work to keep the frame in one piece. H. D. from Buell Racing told me the same thing has happened to others ... Terry | ||
| Blake |
Sounds like Henry was right. My apologies Henry. I was wrong. And no roots even.  | ||
| Xbolt12 |
I talked with an Engineer and he said the frame is coated inside to combat corrosion from the fuel. As for the sliders ripping the frame open, I kind of wondered about that. On Ducati's there seems to be a controversy about running sliders because if they catch it can bend the frame sideways at the engine mount. There is an interesting option on the Duc though-a slider that sits inside the fairing. I would think it would be less likely to catch then although it might just wear a hole through the fairing anyway. I wonder if that would work on XB's? | ||
| Dana P. |
Like I said their is a Liner but area's right from the factory that the coating didn't reach.It can be applied back into it. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Remind me again why you would not just run the frame pucks? $50 out the door, and install tools are a bottle of rubbing alcohol and a pencil... | ||
| Glitch |
I've seen some frame pucks live through a pretty nasty slide. Well I wouldn't say lived through, but the frame only came out with a small scuff, the puck was really ugly, it had rubbed through in one spot, and tore a little, but it was still there. Kinda like a helmet, it did it's job, but there wasn't enough left over to have to it's job twice. If it were me, I'd say just go with the pucks, and some sliders from Dark Horse Moto. Just my 2¢ | ||
| Tatsu |
My question is this.. for those who had the frame slider pucks. If the adhesive is strong enough for the puck to stay on the frame and the puck grinds down in a slide. How do you go about getting the remaining parts of the puck off the bike to replace it with a new slider? | ||
| Wiegs |
There are some things a solvent removes easily (alcohol in this case) that mere physical force has a much harder time doing. | ||
| Kdan |
There are some things a solvent removes easily (alcohol in this case) that mere physical force has a much harder time doing. Like my ex-wife's pants! |
