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Mr_cuell
| | Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 10:22 pm: | 
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I am looking to race but not to "Race". I raced in 99 and 00 and did the whole deal, up and down the coast, trailer, full on SS SV. I ran 1:25's at Summit as an amateur, and never got any faster than that as an expert, mostly I think because of some "dog-bones" a well meaning shop put on the Penske that never felt right. I don't know what the heck I am doing with suspension and their was not a lot to do with the emulators on the front.
I just wanted to know if there were any "must do's" On the SV the stock suspension was scary at race pace - pogo all over the place. The 99 SV transmissions had to be cut down because they would pop out of 3rd and 4th, that kind of stuff. I have the feeling the XB will be rideable at race pace, but not great. I will go for new pads up front - I don't like the feel of the stock set up when I have had to get on them real hard on the street. It was more lack of feel I suppose -
Other than meeting tech it sounds like a can/ecm/filter is about it and I'll be running stock . . . |
Jens
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 07:11 am: |
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@ Mr. Cuell,
hold down the costs and save your money for trackdays. It took a long time and real race experiences to find the limits off stock XB Rīs.
We teach and meet many of our customers on the racetracks and of course we sell a lot of "nice to have" parts. But in the end Erik and his Team have done a real great job and the XB, paddockstands, tyrewarmers and a unit to control the tyrepressure, the tyres you believe in, and a racers heart, is all you need.
Give the Bike open air and a open exhaust if you think you need more power and think about ECM piggyback solutions or remapping.
The ZTL Brake work fine (we all will get a nice new impression about this brake the next days.....(-: ...) if you find the right pads matching your brakestyle. Using a simple airscoop keeps the caliper colder. Change fluid often and bleed the system well by using an underpressure bleedind device. We make a own monobloc ZTL caliper with stronger structures if you one day think that your performance is regulated by the brake.
On the suspension learn first to use what you have. The pre 2005 frontfork is difficult to adjust on the compression and rebound valves, because the real "working way" of the valves is only a half to a quarter turn (180-270 degrees). That means with the handbook settings you are mostly out of the working range of the valve. Find the "working area" of your fork or replace the valves with the seats. Other components including the springs are ok.
Well the rear suspension including the plastic bushings are not racers dream, but it works for 1 season and could be used for hobbyracing. This is the first point of investment if you like to spent money.
Other lowcost modifications you should do are sliders on the axles and frame. Tankfoam to solve the problem of engine stopping at hard braking with half full gastank and if you like, Timken l44610/L44643 steeringheadbearings.
Finally a Laptimer is important to get control what you are doing. A cheap handheld temperaturemeter helps you after coming in to check Tyre- an Oiltemperatures.
Datacollecting (Trackcondition, Outsidetemperature, Tracktemperature, Setup, Tyretemeratures, Tyrepressure etc.) and a good maitanance are the basement of any success and help you to understand your bike.
There ar thousand more modifications you can do on a racebike and a stock XB wonīt win the AMA XTreme Championship. But all begins with understanding your bike and finding your racerstyle and on smaller racetracks a good ridin XB is hard to beat.
Jens
hillbilly-motors.com |
Blake
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 07:41 am: |
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Hey Jens, great to see you speak up here! 
I'd recommend opting for at least the Buell race springs for front and rear. That stock rear spring is made to also accommodate two-up riding and will not work near as well as a spring designed for aggressive one-up track time. Pretty darn hard to beat in the price category too. I hear tell some folks even offer a 10% discount to BadWeBrs. |
Diablobrian
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 02:08 pm: |
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Great Info Jens. Nice and concise. |
Buellrcr
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 04:07 pm: |
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i race two race weekend on stock suspenion. did good but i weight 230lbs. i was bottum out and sliding bad.started dead last and got up to 8 place in the race. with 30 bikes in the feild |
Blake
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 05:36 pm: |
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Way to go racer man! That's impressive. |
Dago
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 05:53 pm: |
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I haven't read this whole thread, and apologize if this has already been mentioned...
Tighten your compensator nut, and keep it tight. |
Mr_cuell
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 09:34 pm: |
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Is that the left one or the right?
Seriously - what is the compensator nut? I have a manual, but its in the garage, and I am on the couch, and its way freakin cold out there! |
Jens
| | Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 07:19 am: |
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Hi Blake,
I am 100% with you, the Buell springs offer a great value for the money if they fit to your setup. But you know, many riders didnīt understand the suspension at all, change springs or other components, but still didnīt understand to do a right setup. So I say first learn to handle what you have, than start buying.
Now lets stay alert for the coming weekend (-:
Best regrads
Jens |
Dago
| | Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 08:19 am: |
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Mr_cuell,
As originally posted by rageonthedl:
My motor went from fine to ruined within a couple of sessions on the track. Unfortunately, I only heard the noise during the last lap or two.
The nut came loose, and it then rattled itself to death. |
Gearhead
| | Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 10:50 am: |
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Like several before, I too want to go racing. It's one of those things I want to be able to scratch off my "life" list and it would be great to do it on a Buell!
This had been a very informative thread, thanks to all. |
Blake
| | Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 11:00 am: |
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Dago,
"The nut came loose..."
You really shouldn't keep beating yourself up like that.
Jens,
Yes, very good point. I agree. |
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