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Keys
Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How many out there are riding without belt guards on their '03? And how many have had any problems or breaks with the updated '03 belt (serial number ends with R if I remember right)? Are there any visual checks you can do to check for possible damage?

THANKS
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Lovematt
Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have but it doesn't count since I am running the updated pulleys and '06 belt....so far about 4000 miles with no problems I can tell.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yup, but once again doesn't count because I'm running a chain final drive.
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Kccyclone
Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am as well as at least 3 of my friends...2 are runnin' the new belts but 2 of us are still on the stock belts.....as of now no probs..

Larry
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Rubberdown
Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I upgraded the pulleys and run the 06' belt with only the newer lower guard. No problems so far.
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Xbjelly9s
Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got 17k on the original belt and have run no guards for 14k of those miles.
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Buellin_ri
Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Original belt with all the gaurds in place.
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Ortegakid
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have had the fugly gaurds off for 11k now, many track days,many dirty road excursions, NEVER a problem, original belt, eight sets of tyres,maybe just lucky, but I believe in the Buell,thx!
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Tq_freak
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an 05 with the them off for like 2500 miles and no problems
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Buellsa
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 06:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gonna remove them tonight after reading this!!!
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One of the 3%ers went with out his guards for a few miles...ended up having to buy a new belt. '03 owners are better off upgrading if the guards are to be removed.
My
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Swespeed
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

no guards...no problems ...6K
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Deuceman
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A friend of mine and I are both riding 03s with original belts and no guards. Not a problem one. 3,000 miles with no guards and a recent track day for me, and the belt looks good as new. My bike has 14,000 miles overall.
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Xxxb9s
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

03 xb9s, 17000km, with beltguard...too afraid to remove it, even though it looks just ugly
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Moboy516
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

15,000 on same belt w/no guards
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Keys
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Many thanks to all those who voted!

Tally:

11 are running without any belt guards on their '03 bikes with either the original or the updated '03 belts. This includes myself with just having finished a ride through all the sand and pebble debris from our recent Texas ice storm remnants.

2 votes (+ assuming another 2 = 4 total) for running '03 bikes with guards. (I'm assuming both Glitch and his buddy who broke his belt has put his belt guards back on!)

5 votes were not applicable (chains and belts from '04 '05 don't have bad reputations anyway)

Thanks again very helpful!
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Kootenay
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the stock belt, and the stock guards in place. I don't mind the look of the guards, and I live on a gravel road, so...
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Armypunk
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an 03 xb9sl with 4000 miles. No belt guard, no problems yet.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 03:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No guards for about 6000 miles.
No problems.(rear sprocket actually rubbed on the guard)
Original '03 belt.
11ooo miles total.
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U4euh
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 02:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dang what am I doing wrong. 20,000 miles and just passed 5000 on the third 03 belt. Thing is, this one has a slit about 3/4 inch long. Maybe cause I took the gaurds off at the same time this one went on.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe cause I took the gaurds off at the same time this one went on.
With all these folks without guards not having problems, it's probably the sign of the purchase of a bad belt.
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Hanses25
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yup about 16,000 ago!
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Isham
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No guards and bike runs great. 6.5k

Check out my pimped out bike in my profile

This guy is killing me with his hottt bike. I think he should lose the guards
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=view_profile&profile=keys-users

(Message edited by isham on December 14, 2005)
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Keys
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 12:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

New Tally:

I'm starting to get the impression that the belts are not too unreliable. Especially for an item the has a scheduled replacement interval anyway. I added up all the reports of breaks either stated in this discussion or in the profiles of each responder under "problems," and found that there is only a 30% report of a break occuring. 50/50 whether it would happen with a guard or without. I'm not trying to be exact or scientific. But I am surprised that many more are getting away without any problems without the stock belt guards on. The belts must not be all that bad. And I think that's the best news!

Also, I think there are 2 ways a belt can break- wear or debris. I wager my belt will break from wear. Since I wasn't able to check for wear with the guards on, they are off now. Belt is part of my pre-ride check now... fingers crossed

(btw THANKS Isham! I wish I had your bike color though, sweet ride!)
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Xxxb9s
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 02:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

30% of broken belts sucks as a reliability percentage

I also think that a bunch of lucky people running without guard with "no problem" doesn't mean it can't hurt the belt lifespan.

mho
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Keys
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 02:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Xxxb9s, you might be right. To be honest when I took them off I didn't think they improved the look that much. If you've got them on, by all means, keep them on.

I just wanted to get an idea of what people were experiencing and what to expect.

However, and I'm not a statician, if you take out the ones who had breaks while they still had the guards on, the percentage of breaks without any guards goes to only breaking 14% of the time. You add the other breaks back in and that's how I got around 30%.

Anyway guard or no guard isn't dogma just info. When I invited people to vent about their breaking belts I expected more horror stories. Think what your tire failure would be if you didn't change them regularly. opps that's a sore subject with me

just info for everyone
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