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Jak
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was looking at the headlight assemblies this weekend and was wondering if I could run dual low beams. I don't know much about electronics and I guess the real question is, is there more power going to the high beam socket, or is it a difference in the bulb? I like the two beam look a little better. If it is a difference in the socket, does anyone know what it would take to put another low beam in? Oh, this is for a 12R.

Thanks
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

To piggyback on this thinking and not clog the board with another thread, I am in need confirmation on replacing the stock headlight bulbs on the CityX. I have taken a quick look and it looks like there are 4 small tabs that have to be pressed down to release the outer lens. Then it is pulling the old bulbs and adding the new. Am I missing anything here, guys?
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Jak
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, who's hijacking my thread?! Just kiddin ya. Anywho, I'm shocked there are no replies yet.
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Uwgriz
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jak, the difference on the R lights is not the bulb nor the voltage going to it but rather in the lens itself so there's no easy way to have dual low beams and still retain a high beam that I can think of off the top of my head.}
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jak,

I am working with a fellow board member to try to devise a method of having both lights on when the high beam switch is on AND have one on the lights cutout when the high beam flasher is hit. This is for an S tho & you have a different situation with the R, I know. But the person I am working with has an R & seems more knowledgeable about the R (logical). He might be a great resource for you. PM me if you are intersted and I can get you his email.
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Stealthxb
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just leave the switch in the middle
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Rageonthedl
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hook the blue wire to the yellow wire in the left switch harness
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Fullpower
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i am quite sure this has been mentioned several times. perhaps use of the search function will stir up a few threads?
there are a pair of EXTRA (unused) fuse positions in the underseat fuse box on the S model. either or both can be wired to the key switch relay with 3 inches of wire, and some tape. (i soldered mine) now you have switched, fused power. i ran one to my low beam, which now STAYS ON whenever the key is on, and the other to my heated grips, which TURN OFF when the key is off. so now the hi beam switch can control only the high beam, and the low beam (in my case an HID) stays on.
firebolt models take an H3 bulb
Lightning models use an H7 bulb. ' good luck. dean
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Kdan
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just leave the switch in the middle

I know it, Silver Bullet told me this and I didn't believe him, but I damn sure went and tried it the next time it was dark! Works good and don't worry about forgetting it, oncoming traffic will remind you quick enough!
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Jak
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What do you mean "leave it in the middle"? It sounds like you are putting on the low and the high at the same time. This happens whenever I have the high beam on because the low never goes off.
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Kdan
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 12:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My low beam is one light and the high beam is the other light. If you put the high low switch in the middle both lights will stay lit. Mine is an "S".
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Mikethebike72
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The "low beam" pattern is created by a plate inside the housing. It is not available by itself, so you need to order a new housing, pn# Y0400.02A8. They run around $50. I know some folks that run their R's that way.
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Buell_892
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Forget duel low beams, get the 6000k HID kit : )
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Jak
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

6000K HID kit?!?!?!?!? What's this?
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Buell_892
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.xenondepot.com/category.php?category_id=10

That is what someone showed me one day... and its on my soon to buy list. It is sorta expensive for just a low beam head light, but I have HID's on my dodge truck and I think its totally worth it!!
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Snowhownd
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm sure every driver approaching loves them too!! I hate those f'ing headlights, nothing like 10 seconds of blindness on a dark winding road in the rain.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

With headlights you just have to beat them at their own game and have even brighter ones than they do. Cops never pull anyone over for brights anymore it seems, and they drive with brights on themselves most of the time. So get the Binford 6000's and melt the other guys windshield!
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Fcbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HID's are awesome. I use them mountain biking all the time in the summer.

However - these particular kits are not street legal in the U.S. (says in their FAQ) ... super bright but IMHO can be blinding to others.

I'd hate to have someone vere into your lane and hit you, run you off the road partially because you blinded them ~ DOH!?!

But whatever... I think they're cool..

(Message edited by fcbuell on November 30, 2005)
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Buell_892
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well you can get a smaller kit... like a 4500 or something, errr go the other way to 8000K : )
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Jak
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm thinking the same as Snowhownd. I want more light and I don't want to cause other drivers issues so I'll likely look into the factory low beam setup. Thanks though.
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Xxxb9s
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

1)on my xb9s I've soldered together the wires that close the "trigger" button's circuit...

2)then Ive swapped the plugs that connect to the right and left lamp in the front fairing.

this way I've lost my "trigger button", but now my bike have full time low beam light (when key turned on, but button is in the "high beam" position...

and when I push the button in the the "low beam" position the high beam switches on, making the bike running both lamps at the same time.

the "bad" thing is that the "high beam" blue led is always on in the dash. I've run this setup from 2003 and everything is ok (touch wood)

now if I want a "trigger" function I have to use the High/low normal button.

I got used to it and I don't miss the old trigger.

by the way the stock xb9s light setup sucked a lot, I couldn't drive well at night.
I've replaced also the bulbs to something more powerful and now I'm happy with it.

(Message edited by xxxb9s on November 30, 2005)

(Message edited by xxxb9s on November 30, 2005)
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Rageonthedl
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the "bad" thing is that the "high beam" blue led is always on in the dash. I've run this setup from 2003 and everything is ok (touch wood)

Touch wood? Im not into that kinda stuff.
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Xxxb9s
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

to avoid bad luck

never mind : )
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Xxxb9s
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

from google



Touch Wood
"Touch wood" or "knock on wood" is a popular saying to reverse any bad luck that might come your way, due to a recent action you have taken or comment you have made. The superstition is that if someone remarks about something not wished for, or something that has not happened lately, they should immediately touch or knock on wood to avoid the fulfillment of bad luck, or the event not desired. Touching wood after boasting of one's good fortune, or exemption from bad luck, was thought necessary to keep the streak of good luck intact. Still, today, people are likely to touch wood immediately after answering a question in the negative, such as "no, I have not been sick lately."
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Rageonthedl
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have only ever heard "knock on wood" never "touch wood" but i figured it was that same thing.
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Xxxb9s
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

actually in my Country we are used to say "touch iron" but I've used the USA version: )


ok, that's nothing related to the topic "dual low beams"

sorry
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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Note - just leave the switch in the middle - wears out the contacts/overheats the switch over a long period of doing this - experience speaking - a wiring solution would be better for long term. I have one but its crude - looking for better ideas!
GT - JBOTDS! EZ
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Light_keeper
Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2005 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I speak with the home office in the UK they use the "touch Wood" where I would use "knock on wood"
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