| Author | Message | ||
     Jaxxb12r |
I'm going to be changing the trans oil on my 04 12r and was wondering if people had good luck with something other than the factory oil...or should i just stick with the HD stuff. Thanks | ||
| Typeone |
i like Mobil 1 75W 90 syn gear oil in the primary, definite improvement in shifting. my fan runs less with Mobil 1 15W 50 syn in the engine too. i like it better than M1 V-Twin or the factory syn. lots of opinions on the oil topic though  plenty of good choices out there. | ||
| Brion |
I use Amzoil 20W50 V-Twin Racing Oil in my S3, XB9R and my Harley Deuce. I have not had any problems using it and that is what they (Amzoil) recommend. I use it in the engine, primary and the transmission of my Deuce. Brion (Message edited by brion on November 20, 2005) | ||
| Buell666 |
the best thing hands down is the harley "formula+." it is better than anything i have tried. it even surpasses the screamin eagle syn3. its cheaper too. its in a black bottle and you can get it at any harley/buell dealer. when i started using it, it felt like i put a new transmission in my bike. | ||
| Darktwin79 |
Amsoil 20/50 in both resovoirs good stuff. J | ||
| Whiskeytango |
Mobil 1 75W 90 syn gear oil for me too! Slick shifting! WT | ||
| Justice |
Amsoil works great in the trans. I noticed a real-life difference in the shifting. | ||
| Guzzimon |
Redline Shockproof Light. | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Olive oil has a very high level of monunsaturated fats. | ||
| Jak |
I see two different oil weights for the Mobil 1 users. What is the recommended weight for a 12R? | ||
| Truk |
I use Mobile One 75-90 Gear oil in the trany and Mobile One 20w50 Vtwin in the engine | ||
| Jak |
About a week ago I posted about break in miles and someone told me to do the 500 miles and then change the fluids. The dealership forgot to give me the manual that comes with the bike so is this recommended or should I wait until the 1k service to take care of that? Also, I was told to check the engine oil to see if it was using any after each ride. Will the oil level read correctly if the bike is leaning over on the sidestand? | ||
| Jackbequick |
Jak - If you're talking about the difference between 15W50 and 20W50, there is little difference in use. In theory, the 15W50 is better in cooler weather and the 20W50 better in hotter weather. If I was going to run long days in real high temps (90-100F) I would probably look for a straight 50W or 60W synthetic out of deference to an engine that does not have an overly generous oil supply, is already known to run hot, and can suffer some problems from overheating. In the meantime I am perfectly happy with Mobile 1 75W90 in the primary and 20W50 in engine. Jack (Message edited by jackbequick on November 20, 2005) | ||
| Cochise |
Jak, I just use Syn3. It has worked fine for me, and I use it in the primary also. It works just fine for our Arkansas Winters and Summers, although you're a little warmer down in the River Valley. | ||
| Jak |
I'll give that a try I guess. Hey, just wanted to let you know I had a great time at the poker run. We need to do more of those, and WITH MORE BUELLS! Sorry I had to take off but I had to get my bag before my boys took off to the Rock. I made it by about 25 min. I forgot about your seat offer until I made it to Mountainburg and my ••• started hurting. Next time I'm around the hill I'll shoot you an email or give you a ring. BTW, how much were you thinking? You can PM me with that. Oh yeah, for all of you reading this, Cochise has mad skills. I saw this guy take corners like One of the Hayden Bros. Mad Props Cochise... | ||
| Cochise |
yeah, at 60 miles per | ||
| Cochise |
I'll need to find out how much a new one costs, then charge you double. Seriously, they are 149 +shipping, and I'll give you mine for 1 hunnert. | ||
| Jak |
60 sure, but that's on a real road with real traffic and you don't get to do a hundred laps to get better. Well, you made it easier for me to take the corners since I could see your line and speed when I could stay up with you. One bill sounds good but I'll want to slap it on and give it a round the block test. Did you say it was the high model? I forgot. | ||
| Cochise |
well, if you look on www.buell.com and look at accessories under firebolt models then seats and you will see it, it's the one on the left. Whenever you want to try it on, let me know. | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
I didn't hang with the big boys on our Hudson Valley Headless Horseman Run this October, but I heard that Cochise was doing some righteous riding. I was happy at the back of the pack just Blasting along. I lack mad skills like Cochise.. LOL | ||
| Gotmine |
just a question. don't we have "wet" clutches in our xb's? if so, wouldn't using synthetic hinder the performance of the clutch or affect in some other negative way, at least long term? | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
We do have wet clutches, and synthetic is fine in the tranny as long as it isn't a "energy conserving" oil that has additives that can cause clutch problems. | ||
| Cochise |
You guys need to be quiet because I'm gonna be like Clint Eastwood's character in Every Which Way But Loose, and every little snot nosed kid is gonna want to come here and try to unbike me. | ||
| Jak |
how'd you know I get snot on my nose when I ride??? | ||
| Cochise |
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| Rocketman |
Automatic Transmission Fluid is my choice transmission lubricant from now on. Years of reading, and weeping, and experimenting, have lead me to this choice. I'm no bone head so if you wish to take my word for it and switch to ATF's in your transmission, use a high quality one of at least Dexron II if not Dexron III specification and I'm happy to tell you you'll not go wrong or suffer problems. I know people who've run ATF's in their transmissions for years - trouble free. It's your choice. Just don't blame it on ATF's when the tranny bursts its way out of the cases on its way to Mars  Rocket | ||
| Jackbequick |
Mobil 1 75W90 has sulfur additives (the source of its less than pleasant smell), those are considered an extreme pressure lubricant. That is a better lubricant for the straight cut gears in the H-D constant mesh transmissions. ATF is engineered as a hydraulic fluid, its lubricating qualities are pretty much incidental, and I just don't think it has enough lubricating properties. If it works for you, that's fine though. Jack | ||
| Fullpower |
jackb sez: "an engine that does not have an overly generous oil supply, is already known to run hot, and can suffer some problems from overheating." what exactly are you refering to here? who's Buell is "known to run hot"? what oil temperature leads you to believe that 20W-50 is somehow inadequate for lubrication or cooling purposes in your motorcycle? why do you state that the Buell has an inadequate oil capacity? I find no merit to your claims, but will keep an open mind for any new information you wish to provide. regards, dean (Message edited by fullpower on November 21, 2005) | ||
| Freyke |
Hey any opinions on what will work best for the new XB12X helical cut gears of this tranny... I can tell you one thig from first hand experience.. The XB12X tranny is simply AWSOME.. worlds apart from my XB9S... I used to run Mobil 1 15W-50 in both the engine and primary in that bike with no probs... | ||
| Rocketman |
The thing is Jack, Buell don't recommend an EP oil. Wasn't it you who pointed out EP oils were developed for differential units (were EP's are highest) ? So what's the point? Automatic transmission units have helical and straight cut gears both? I'm happy to go with ATF. The quality is there, obviously. Our recurring problem always seems to be the application. The application is what I finally understand after drag racing and burning out countless kevlar clutches for example. Rocket | ||
| Tim |
My 95 Chevy S-10 pickup had a 5 speed manual transmisson and ATF fluid was the specified lubrication. Also, I remember someone posting a picture of ATF fluid in a Buell racing team trailer quite a while back. I have a hunch that the new Formula + is a step in that direction. | ||
| Vaneo1 |
I have a quick question, how many quarts does an XB12R require? I need to do an oil change now, literally. I just checked it and lets just say I most likely wont find anything comming out when I open the drain plug. | ||
| Brucelee |
BMW used to recommend ATF fluid for manual trans series 3. Don't know if they still do. Use used Mobil 1 ATF in my 3 and it shifted flawlessly. Still use M1 Gear Oil in my XB though. |
